If Fury beat Usyk it would be the biggest Heavyweight win since?

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  1. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    How does avenging a lost now makes it a biggest win?

    Only if you are a die hard Fury fan.
     
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  2. Wedgie Kray

    Wedgie Kray The pessimist will always lack enthusiasm banned Full Member

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    Will be a minor upset.
     
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  3. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This would be bigger. Usyk is undefeated and this is for best heavyweight of this era
     
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  4. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk is not that much smaller in weight. Usyk weighs more than Wilder did in almost all of Wilders fights
     
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  5. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because it puts Fury as the number 1 heavyweight of this era

    Unless there's a 3rd fight in which Usyk wins
     
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  6. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilders weight is irrelevant
     
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  7. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why is it irrelevant? Everyone seems to bring up how small Usyk is in comparison to Fury when in reality thats not really the case
     
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  8. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It would still be debatable if he wins on points. They are basically 1-1 and have similar resumes. If he knocks Usyk out, then we can argue he's the best.
     
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  9. Sks476

    Sks476 Active Member Full Member

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    Biggest win since Usyk beat Fury. Usyk won for all the belts whilst both were unbeaten
     
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  10. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nah Fury dethroned Klitschko, 3 Wilder from fights, 2 KOs, 3 Chisora wins by domination who Usyk struggled with, Whyte and even his loss he avenged.

    Usyk simply hasn't done enough at heavyweight to make a claim that he's a greater heavyweight than Fury if Fury wins the rematch and that's the end of their careers
     
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  11. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Considering that Usyk is the undisputed undefeated CW and HW champion, exactly such circumstances are repeated in the fight Holyfield Vs. Bowe 1.
     
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  12. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    That doesn't make it a win to be Greatest since.....

    It would just be a win, if he wins.
     
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  13. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury was taking on the absolute best of the previous era who was 20 defenses into his reign and Fury was a questionable prospect that went to Germany (Wlad's turf).
     
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  14. AdamT

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    I rate Fury's win over wlad as greater than usyk over Fury and furys potential win over usyk

    The Ngannou fight is still too fresh in my mind and although I think Fury edged it, it feels like a loss to me. Yes he was probably not as prepared as he was vs usyk, but it takes a little shine off it

    Yes wlad also didn't look particularly great in the fight prior Fury, but he didn't get beat by a novice. You also have to take in the odds

    Not many, very few picked Fury to beat Wlad, while many picked usyk to beat Fury. He wasn't the favourite, but it was close

    Yes 4 belts where on the line, but let's face it, there shouldn't be 4 belts in the first place and it is no difference having 4 belts now, to someone holding 3 20 years ago, or 2 the previous era and right back to when it was one belt

    So yes Usyk beating Fury to be undisputed was massive, but I still think going to away soil to dethrone a super champ was the greater win

    If people disagree that is fine, but the wlad win was huge at the time and if Fury wins Saturday? It will ge his second best win
     
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  15. shavers

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    He hasnt.deserved that credit, sure a win over Usyk would be his biggest win. But his past behaviour when being cahmp degrades him..
     
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