If Fury beats Usyk, how high in ATG rankings?

Haye beat Valuev, Ruiz, Chisora, Barrett, at Heavyweight which is comparable to Wilder's best wins honestly. Add in Haye's Cruiserweight achievements and you could be right.

 

When he beats Usyk and Joshua he will be top 10 without a doubt. The era sucks, so can't put him top 5, but definitely top 10

Usyk is overrated as f..k.right now on this forum. The cruiser division wasn't that hot and he has 2 good wins vs Aj

A prime mike Tyson would absolutely kill usyk and I would pick Holyfield to do him also

 

The scarier thing for many would be what happens if he beats Usyk twice?

 

No where near the top 10,,

 

Who has Usyk beat who Fury wouldn't skin alive and wear their skin as a trophy?

You're getting too high on your chazz witherspoon TKO

 

Honestly, I think it's better even without the cruiserweight achievements - Valuev may have been limited but he was extremely durable and tends to be underrated... He's still far better than Ortiz - and to be honest so was Ruiz. And as for Chisora, he went 50/50 with both the man who 12-0 humiliated Wilder AND the man Wilder flat out refused to fight.

Wilder just gets way too much credit for how limited and chicken livered he was.

 

Too easy - Joshua.

Which is why it'll never happen.

 

A huge super-heavyweight beating a man he calls "the middleweight" won't mean much. There are weight divisions for a reason.

But if Usyk beats the huge "Belly" despite the size difference, that will put Usyk high on the ATG rankings.

 

Imagine if Usyk makes Fury look stupid and clumsy and bats him all around the ring the entire night instead.

Imagine if "the middleweight" times glass chin Fury and it turns out that this 225lb dude actually hits much harder than Tyson expected?

Imagine if Fury has to scrape himself off the floor against a guy that he knows he can't outbox?

Imagine instead, that it's Usyk that gets the ATG ranking and Fury that retires with the stigma of ducking his hard rematches and AJ?

Ooofff that could suck.

 

Imagine alllll the people

 

Given the rimming Usyk gets on here, if Fury beats him he's undoubtedly the number 1 p4p of all time

 

Who cares? Everyone's subjective ranking is different. Fury could knock Usyk
out of the ring, over the top rope on the very first punch and some people will
still claim he's a bum. Fury can and probably will become undisputed champ
but some people will rationalize why that isn't true. People dogged Lennox his
whole carreer, they called Ali feather fisted even when he was knocking people
out. They made Johnson wander the world because he was black. Whatever

 

Just read a post here, more or less here stating:-

“Who has Usyk beaten that Fury wouldn’t beat?”

Note the term “wouldn’t”. Fury’s resume has been heavily built on speculation, not actual fighting.

Here’s one, AJ.

If Fury did beat Usyk, he doesn’t inherit the credit for Olek’s own two victories over AJ.

In beating Ali, Ken Norton certainly did absorb credit for Ali’s achievements otherwise.

Whilst a fighter is still active, his ranking as an ATG can move incrementally up or down.

Why pretend that Fury’s perceived ATG ranking didn’t drop dramatically when struggled with and got dropped on his *** by a debutant.

To drop Fury down some more rungs, AJ levelled that same debutant in less than 2 rounds.

A single win over Usyk doesn’t even necessarily catch Tyson up to his perceived ATG ranking as it stood prior to his facing Ngannou, let alone elevate him from that pre Ngannou fight platform.