If Fury is stripped of titles, Luis Ortiz isn't getting a shot at one of them.

See my other thread:
[url]http://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/this-is-what-is-going-to-happen-with-the-heavyweight-title-mess.574221/[/url]

The most common issue people keep bringing up is "what about Luis Ortiz. He's ranked 1st with the WBA. He's the interim champion."

The WBA's response will be (while they won't actually say this) "what about Ortiz?, he's carrying one of our paper titles so every time he fights we can **** him in the arse and take a fee for a meaningless title hehehehehehehehehehe"

The WBA are driven by one thing and one thing alone: money.

Ortiz does not have a top promoter anymore. He does not have a TV deal.

Ortiz v Klitschko makes nowhere near the money Joshua v Klitschko would bring. Joshua is a highly lucrative Sky Box Office fighter, has a deal with Showtime in the USA and he sells tickets out in 12 seconds. The WBA want a piece of that delicious pie. 3% of that is probably worth millions more than 3% of Klitschko-Ortiz.

Furthermore, if they said to Wlad you have to fight Ortiz, then what is stopping Wlad from saying '**** that, I'm not fighting that drug cheat for chump change, I'll go and fight Joshua for the IBF instead'.

The WBA have history of this in the last 12 months. When Danny Garcia vacated the WBA 140 title, did they give a **** about interim champ Benavidez? Nope. When Carl Frampton vacated the belt, did they give a **** about Moises Flores? Nope. When they made Santa Cruz-Mares for the vacant Super Belt, did they care what Jesus Cuellar thought? Nope.

Remember this is the same org that stripped Rigondeaux for a bit to allow Quigg-Frampton to be a unification so they could have some of that big pot of gold.

Furthermore by holding that title, Ortiz is ruling himself out of fights with the WBC, IBF and WBO champions because their rules state you must either fight someone in the top 15 of that org (and you lose ranking if you hold a WBA belt) or the top champion of another org (which Ortiz isn't).

 

But why would the WBA and Wlad take chump change in the short term for Ortiz-Wlad, when Joshua is willing to go for FAAAAAAAAARRRR more money? If Wlad wins they can do the Ortiz fight at a later date. If Joshua wins they have a gold mine who can make a fortune opposite Haye, Fury, Wilder, Parker, etc

Ortiz won't even be interim champion following his next fight.

Interim title rules state you must defend every 6 months. He will have to defend the belt in his next fight (and pay his fees) but he will be stripped of it immediately after (like Eubank was after beating Jeter outside the 6 month window) and if he refuses to pay, he will be stripped of his ranking (which would probably be a blessing).

 

True, Joshua is certainly up for this fight. Eddie Hearn has narrowed it down to either Klitschko or Parker and I think Klitschko is the number 1 choice, Klitschko will be happy to take it too, they are just waiting to see what the sanctioning bodies do with Fury.

 

Is putting him in with Parker not a risk, for less reward?

If you've followed this you'd know Hearn is much more keen on the Joshua-Klitschko fight, than he is Joshua-Parker next.

 

If he wasn't trying to get Wladimir next, he would have already made the Parker fight seen as everyone else dropped out. He has also contacted the Millennium Stadium tot try and get that venue (although the fight would then take place on Dec 3rd not Nov).

If he loses to Parker, next year would just be spent on a comeback trail.

If he loses to Klitschko, David Haye v Lucas Browne is being discussed for the regular title, and he will go to Wembley in May or June to fight Haye if he wins.

 

Yeah. It's also quite possible at this stage Parker is equally as dangerous, if not more so than Klitschko. I think he beats both but if he lost to one now, the Parker loss would hurt more.