If Fury loses to Usyk, will this change your opinion of him being one of the greatest of all time?

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  1. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    It's not THAT thin. Maybe it's a heavy-grade watercolour paper?
     
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  2. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Hmmm, I dunno I kid of think Fury and Usyk are both past their primes now, but it will still be a fantastic win.

    I'd say that if Fury can beat Usyk and then beat AJ and maybe Joyce, then I'd put him in the top 10 ever.

    Wlad, Wilder, Usyk, Joshua, Joyce is a good set of opponents. Best resume since Lewis.
     
  3. mirexxa

    mirexxa Heavyweight Champ Full Member

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    Well his legacy as the best of his era. If he loses he will be exposed as a big untalented bum who was only successful because of his size and lost to the more skilled much smaller man
     
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  4. Mr Stagger Lee

    Mr Stagger Lee Active Member Full Member

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    Greatest of All Time!!!! Really!!! His resume isn't even close. Now he's past it to get anywhere near an ATG, too old, too slow, too flat footed and too fat!
    If his hands were as good as his mouth then maybe 3 years ago.
     
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  5. Mr Stagger Lee

    Mr Stagger Lee Active Member Full Member

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    It would take another 8 years for him to get to that level. 12 months of that to get into reasonable shape. Another 12 to flush his system of booze and recreational chemicals.
     
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  6. kirk

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  7. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am not a fury fan, his resume is very thin and there are doping accusations around the wlad fight.

    But he beat a top 10 atg heavy in wlad and a very good and dangerous belt holder twice.

    He is a first ballot hof and imo an atg heavyweight.

    Usyk will school him, Mark my words.

    Usyk is an elite talent and an absolute atg who then beat a great champ in joshua and an atg in fury, besides his atg top 5 run of the last 30 years at cruiser.

    We have then start to talk about usyk as the GOAT!!!
     
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  8. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    No, my opinion wouldn't change of Fury one bit as he is not even close to being an ATG with his laughable resume.
     
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  9. Thesenuts

    Thesenuts Member banned Full Member

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    ding ding ding!
     
  10. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Bollocks. That's the Mayweather excuse. "Why should he fight fighter x, what could he gain, fighter x is not even worthy anyway".

    A true boxing fan will never slag a fighter off for losing when facing the best possible opposition. Fury has a laughable resume, has ducked multiple fights to date, had a drug ban etc. That's why his legacy is trash, not because of some hypothetical loss to this era's most talented active HW. Fury is going to be 35 this year, had 34 fights and out of those, only six were title fights. Out of those six, three against the same flat-footed one-trick pony, one against an uppercut magnet has-been, and a voluntary one against 12 losses nigh on 40 Chisora. This is a disgrace, his fans should be the loudest about how and why he hasn't fought everyone who's anyone in the division yet. Does anyone seriously doubt that had Fury really wanted it, he could have already fought Usyk, Joyce, Joshua, Ruiz etc?

    I'll always respect a fighter for seeking out challenges. If they lose while searching for greatness - it happens, and there's absolutely no shame in that. But Fury just wants to protect that meaningless 0. Can anyone imagine an Ali or a Lewis fighting voluntarily against someone like Chisora while holding the WBC belt, and claiming nobody better was available? Why fight with a known, pre-existing injury anyway, when that could put the upcoming undisputed fight in jeopardy?

    I'm absolutely sure Fury can't believe the amount of bull**** he can get away with. He no doubt trolls and laughs at his fans while ripping them off, and they still worship him. The whole thing feels like a cult.
     
  11. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Strong feelings man. Respect!
     
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  12. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitor Belfort beat Evander Holyfield.
     
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  13. Put to the test

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  14. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Usyk is acting like a caged rat already worried about his payday. I don't blame him...but he should relax and get off social media that was always a more threatening front.

    Not sure them heavy kettlebell presses are any good for his blown out shoulders either...
     
  15. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So I’ve voted NO

    This is because I DO NOT consider Tyson Fury to be anywhere near a ‘Greatest of All Time’ conversation let alone make a placing in the top 20 and nowhere near the top of the ratings.

    He hasn’t beaten anyone of any distinction in his whole career and those who argue for his place as the greatest ever have fallen hook line and sinker for the spin and PR machine that spews out of his camp

    Klitschko was a faded Champ who looked bored and unmotivated by the challenge of Fury. It was without doubt THE WORST Heavyweight Title fight in living memory with Wladimir being at his absolute worst

    Wilder was an overhyped con job who to this day hasn’t got anything like a decent win on his entire record!

    So where is the evidence that Fury is anything other than a con job himself because it certainly isn’t there within his fight record?