If Fury needs another tune-up in September, why not the winner of Price-Allen?

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What do you think of Fury against the winner of Price-Allen?

  1. No. Fury needs to fight a champion or #1 contender like Whyte

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  2. No. the winner of Price-Allen is still only comparable to Schwarz, Pianeta or Johnson.

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  3. Yes...great, exciting matchmaking this, and a fine domestic dust-up

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  4. Why not? Not the best fight but probably as good as anything we can hope for

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    First of all, we would ALL rather see fury fight Ruiz, Whyte, or somehow, Wilder next. But I don't think it is going to happen. Now...

    Price and Fury was a talked about domestic dust-up early before their careers dramatically forked, with Fury winning championship and Price suffering a series of humbling defeats. Well, price is back to his winning ways with his bizarre win over undefeated Kash Ali, and a win is a win. He is scheduled to fight Allen next, who has some good wins over Nick Webb and Lucas Browne. The winner of this is a legit contender.

    Why not?
     
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    POTUS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because AJ-Price/Allen is more lucrative & still on the table. You're right Fury may get the fight at the O2 but AJ-Price/Allen at Wembley is the ideal fight.

    AJ should have fought Allen in the first place. Ruiz was only known by hardcore fans before the AJ fight. At least Allen had a decent following in England.

    Hearn was an absolute idiot for making AJ-Ruiz in NY. I understand it looked like an easy payday but Allen was more popular than Ruiz.
     
  3. Crixus139

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    Winner of these two will not want to fight Tyson. Absolutely no chance.

    Allen has sparred rounds with Tyson. He's on record recently stating he is the best HW in the world so talk about lost before fight has started.

    Ideally Fury next opponent will be american.
     
  4. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ehhh, I would prefer him fighting Whyte, Usyk, or Joyce/Pulev/povetkin/Parker
    Someone top 10 with atleast somewhat of a chance


    But since he's already ruled out Whyte and Parker and the rest isn't really realistic(povetkin too short, they want someone tall, Joyce too early, Usyk needs tuneups at HW, wilder/Ortiz and AJ/Ruiz are tied up)


    I guess it would be ok but it wouldn't really make me happy


    Very frustrated with Fury's choice of opponents. IMO he's the best in the world but he's making it difficult to support that argument because he's constantly lying, conning and finding excuses.


    Very Ric Flair-esque lol
     
  5. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I ALWAYS wanted to see Fury vs Price!
    Price has a glass chin but Fury isn't a puncher.
    Can you imagine if Price STARCHES Fury?! That would be a bigger upset then Ruiz over AJ.

    If we can't get Fury Wilder 2. Make this Fight!!
     
  6. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Why does Fury need so many tunes to fight someone who he apparently schooled?

    Weird.
     
  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pure kindness. He wants to give you and Deontay a chance for your love affair to play out.
     
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    So you are attempting to insinuate that Fury is ducking Wilder by taking tune up fights? Why shouldn't he stay active? Doesn't Wilder have a fight coming up with a 107 year old Luis Ortiz who will enter the ring with a blood pressure cuff on his arm and riding a power chair?Are you forgetting the following facts?

    "I'll apologize on behalf of Eddie Hearn and Anthony Joshua because they're from the same country as I am, they won't fight you and they've took three months stringing you and the fans along with no intention of fighting, but I'll fight you in three seconds. Get your boss to send me the contract and I'll show you how long it takes to sign it! If you wanna fight the best this country has ever had knock on my door and see if the Gypsy King doesn't answer.

    Wilder landed 71 punches of 430 thrown (17%), and Fury landed 84 of his 327 thrown (26%). Wilder was much less accurate in this fight than he usually had been in previous fights.

    Fury out-landed Wilder in 9 out of the 12 rounds.

    Outlets that had Wilder winning:-
    Dan Rafael (ESPN) 114-112
    Lance Pugmire (LA Times) 114-112
    Bob Velin (PBC/Freelance?) 114-112

    Pro Boxers that had Wilder winning:-
    Bernard Hopkins

    Outlets that had Fury winning:-
    Steve Kim (ESPN) 115-112
    Wil Esco (badlefthook.com) 114-112
    The Guardian 115-111
    The Telegraph 115-111
    Brian Campbell (cbssports.com) 115-111
    Patrick Stumberg (mmamania.com) 116-110
    Mookie Alexander (bloodyelbow.com) 115-111
    Peter Kahn (forbes.com) 115-111
    The Ring (panel)
    Jai Bednall (news.com.au) 114-112
    Steve Farhood (Showtime) 115-111
    Mike Coppinger (******.com) 116-110
    Keith Idec (*******.com) 114-112
    Cliff Rold (*******.com) 114-112
    Paulie Malignaggi (Showtime) 115-111
    John Raspanti (maxboxing.com) 114-112

    Pro boxers that had Fury winning:-
    Lennox Lewis
    Andre Ward
    Floyd Mayweather
    Roy Jones
    Oleksandr Usyk


    The Draw:-
    Brian Mahoney (Associated Press) 113-113
    Greg Beacham (Associated Press) 113-113
    Andreas Hale (sportingnews.com) 113-113
    Matthew Wells (fansided.com) 113-113
    Kevin Iole (yahoo.com) 113-113
    Norm Frauenheim (15rounds.com) 113-113
    Mike Rosenthal (*******.com) 113-113
    Joe Santoliquito (******.com) 113-113
    Joe DePaolo (Washington Post) 114-114

    Pro boxers that had it a Draw:-
    Jarrell Miller

    Running Total:
    Fury 21/35 (60%)
    Wilder 4/35 (11%)
    Draw 10/35 (29%)
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No and besides he's friends with both of them and he'd be hammering a nail into the coffins of their careers. Let the winner go their own route and let Fury hammer a nail into the sham of a career of Bum Squad instead.
     
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    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    that still dont answer his question, which i also have. why all the drama and theatrics for a guy that cant box and you supposedly already schooled?
    im no fanboy, im a legit boxing fan, so dont make this about me, its about tyson.
     
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    The whole point of fighting in the US is to expose him to the American casual fanbase. Unlikely Fury fights in the UK for a while. Should be an American opponent at Barclays Centre or something ideally. Maybe Hunter fits the bill, but perhaps he is too small for pre Wilder tune up.

    Certainly wont be another British fighter. Definitely not Joyce.
     
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    So 40% had it either a draw or a Wilder win, so i guess a draw wasn‘t a bad decision, let alone a robbery.

    For my part, i scored the fight 114-112 for Wilder the first time and 113-113 the second time, a draw was the right decision considering Wilder was the champion.
     
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  13. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    You wrote all that drivel without addressing as to why Fury turned down a 50/50 contract for an immediate rematch in favor of tune up fights? :lol:

    Of course Ortiz is now a 107 year old bum after Wilder beat him. Before he fought Wilder, he was the man Wilder was avoiding. That's how it goes; every potential opponent Wilder fights is due to pose a threat until he actually fights them and beats them, then they become bums.

    As for your quotes of the fight, boxing isn't judged on numbers. Even if it was, Fury wouldn't have that strong an argument to claim victory through, considering he merely out landed Wilder by 1 punch per round which is hardly anything to shout about. And not once did he wobble or seriously hurt Wilder.

    You seem to think/believe mass media hive mind opinion means anything and changes what actually occurred in the fight.

    I will reiterate Fury did nothing spectacular besides show heart and put some good counter combinations together in spurts through a couple of rounds. Other than that, there was nothing really in the fight until the knock downs and every round could have been argued in favor of either fighter, depending what you favor in a fight. Whether that's defensive slipping and spoiling counter punching mixed with needless showboating, or aggression, control of the ring and power.

    In such instance it would be rare to favor a challenger who fights on the defensive and is more interested in survival. Rarely has that happened. Even Andre Ward in the first Kovalev fight had stronger claim to victory even though he still didn't do enough to legitimately win that fight.

    Fury lost on my scorecards and that's not even factoring that should have been waved off. A draw is tolerable. Fury only wins if you listen and believe every word from the biased commentary and believe he won every round in the first half of the fight, when if you are able to score a fight correctly you know he did not win all of the first 1-6 rounds.

    If you want to go into detail round by round, and explain how Fury one each round without relying on popular hive mind opinion then I'll be willing to entertain your nonsense.

    Until then I look forward to hearing explanation on why Fury requires more tune ups to fight someone who he apparently ''schooled''.
     
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  14. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Can someone explain me the rationale about Fury needing tune-ups?
     
  15. ryuken87

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    I think it's now clear from a boxing standpoint he needs no more tune ups. It's only about money from here on out.