If Fury Never Fought Again?

My impression of him will remain unchanged: guy that self-uppercutted.

 

If you were a Klitschko fan back then you'd know he was just rebuilding himself after some quick stoppages. That Vlad squeaked by Sam Peter in an amazing fight while suffering three knockdowns. That fighter is not exactly what you'd call "prime" Vlad. The problem is that his physical and mental prime involved using a safety first style that Fury would always exploit. I think the Steward trained Vlad always struggles in this matchup because he doesn't throw combinations and relies too heavily on his jab.

If you really want to post an interesting question, it's Fury vs. 2002 Vlad Klitschko who was a HW wrecking ball. That's a 50-50 fight.

 

Yeah except apparently you missed the part where I said Wlad was 39 years old and with nearly 70 fights of mileage behind him but why let something like that get in the way of an argument ? As for wilder, I’ll concede that he might have been prime when they fought in 2018 - a match that went the distance and saw fury decked twice. But the rematch two years later ? Not sure. By the time of the third fight I’m pretty sure wilder was done.

 

50 years from now do u honestly think folk will talk about Tyson Fury the way we talk about fighters like Rocky Marciano, Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Sonny Liston etc?
His resume will ensure he isn't spoken of as anyone of any great relevance imo

 

I doubt it….. UNLESS…. He signs for a FOURTH Chisora fight.. a good rivalry always makes for all time great memories

 

You're not sure if a 34 year old heavyweight champion was prime? Uhhhhhhh hmmmm. Not sure where to go with that. You must have a lot of thought provoking questions about a lot of things then. You figure out why you think that and get back to me.

Klitschko had 50 fights before he was 30. They got young HW prospects a ton of knock overs to build them up back then, it was a different era. He defeated two undefeated contenders in the year before fighting Fury (the shot version of one of them is on Joshua's top 10). Stating that he had over 60 fights when facing Fury means nothing if he was p4p #2.

Do you know about Julio Cesar Chavez? Your head will explode to find out people considered him prime having fought 90-100 times!

 

Out of interest mate, where would rate Usyk against the ATG's?

 

I don't know about a couple of these arguments mate.

Firstly, P4P lists are tenuous. Guys sit on them for too long based on reputation alone. Errol Spence is a good example of this.

As for Chavez, he was KO'd brutally by ODLH in his 99th fight and then beaten to a pulp by Kostya Tszyu a few years later at the age of 37. Now whilst that is elite level competition it was obvious that this was a shell of what JCC was. The fact is that Wlad was old and he was shop-worn by the time a prime Fury got to him. And it's not even as if Fury brutalised him. He nudged a victory (deserved but hardly scintillating) in one of the worst heavyweight title fights ever seen.

 

If Tyson Fury married Conway Twitty, he'd be Tyson Twitty. Or Tyson Fury-Twitty. Or Tyson Twitty-Fury.

 

Based on his resume, ranking him around the bottom of the top 50 seems accurate. Still, with only 7 title fights at almost 36, only 3 title defences, 0 defences as a unified champion, his best win being an old Wlad in a boring fight, and 2 trilogies with tier-two type of guys, his resume is wafer-thin. He's one of the biggest wasted potentials in boxing history. In terms of talent and physical gifts, he's top 10. If only Peter Fury had been his coach for life, and if only Fury had been able to live an athlete's life, who knows what he could have achieved.

 

I don't know why I laughed at that. But laugh I did.

 

If Fury never fights again ..... I will be very happy. Conned the people for way too long. And messed the sport for way way too long.

 

Definitely no. Willard, Braddock, Leon Spinks, Briggs, Rahman were levels below. Douglas was very talented but the same type of wasted talent as Fury

 

Well overrated.

 

Oh, dear ATG rating? For what? Garbage 2-3 points win(should be 2 rounds surely, as he clearly lost the 12th, and don't know how the judges gave him that round). Klitschko was abysmal in that fight. Zero motivation, zero hunger, and almost shot to s****.
Hell Klitschko was well past in Pulev fight. Looking at a fighter that bounce back and forth on his toes, and not finding his range is a clear indicator of terrible declined and aging fighter.
Klitschko was used to throws tons of punches, which was heavily in decline as well, cause he was old as ****. He was 39,7 years old, and Fury was 26 years old with all the motivation in the world.

Now reverse the role, 26 years old Klitschko with 40 years old Fury, and let's see that fight. Fury won't last 2 rounds.

I never rate Wilder anyway. And people tend to age and decline differently. The one that rely on their punch output, speed, agility, reflexes, reaction time are the first to decline heavily after 32-33.

If you look at every single World Class Top Football players, they lose their speed, and acceleration first. Even Cristiano Ronaldo who is the hardest working m**** on the planet, start losing his speed at the age of 31-32, and it's happen really fast. He also start going down in weight in order to preserve some of the speed he is losing, and to slow the process. But his speed and acceleration slowed so fast so much.
And this happen with every athlete.
Everyone knows there is a period and age until you can maximize your attributes gain, and after that is just experience and adjustment, and improving on what you already got. And after 31-32 you will start loosing your attributes.

Fury fans loves to overrate Fury for his Wilder 2 performance, but they also forget that WIlder didn't show at all for that fight, and he is a terrible back foot fighter.
On top of that, the Bronze ***** decide to gain 20lbs(obviously big timeJuice, as he was still ripped to the bone) for no good reason, and was a shadow of himself. But people on here just loves to overrate the fat Fraud.

What i see in that fight is a slow and sloppy Fury, that still has his fundamentals flows, and still drops his hands after throwing a punch.