If GBP succeeded pirating Pac...

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  1. ahcef

    ahcef Member Full Member

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    Pac would not be as popular today because he would not fight these:
    1.) Oscar -- this fight firmly placed Pac to the minds of casual fans and elevated him to stardom.
    2.) Hatton -- Hatton was motivated by Pac's win which was a done deal as soon as the fight with Oscar was over.
    3.) Cotto, Clottey, Margarito -- TR boxers.

    However under GBP, Pac could have more respect from hardcore fans if he wins all these but all below welterweight. It is below welter because, to fight Oscar, he has to jump weights and discovered that he could fight there. He would not have done this if he is not fighting Oscar:
    1.) JMM -- trilogy easily made under GBP.
    2.) Juan Diaz, Katsidis, Campbell, Casa, Soto

    In summary, under GBP, Pac is not as popular, not as rich, and because it is below welterweight, no Mayweather war of words. In hindsight, I prefer Pac with TR.
     
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  2. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why wouldn't he have fought Oscar in your opinion? :think

    I do agree he wouldn't have gotten the last two belts he did if he was under Golden Boy and wouldn't be as big in the media. :yep
     
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  3. ant

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    to be honest if you look at it differently he could be in the light welterweight division right now fighting the best there not as popular but better fights for us fans cause i guarantee he wouldnt stay at 135
     
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  4. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal I think he should/should have taken it to these boys at 140. But I understand his promoter taking the biggest money fights and fights with the bigger name less risk. I mean look at where he is in the media now.
     
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  5. ant

    ant Ride The Walrus Full Member

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    of course i dont blame arum hes made more money from it i was just going from our point of view
     
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  6. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Why on earth wouldn't the Oscar fight have happened? Pac would have fought Oscar and Hatton then a third fight with JMM. He wouldn't have got Cotto, Clottey or Marg but only the Cotto fight would have been a loss to the fans.
     
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  7. mking

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    He would of still blasting out all competition.
     
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  8. ahcef

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    he would not have fought Oscar because he is Pac's promoter. Oscar fought Pac because he was pissed at Pac for switching back to TR thinking that it is an easy fight.
     
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  9. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this thread is ******ed
     
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  10. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's why you think Oscar fought Manny? Interesting....
     
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  11. mking

    mking Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oscar would have still fought Pac and **** him for 70/30 split.
     
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  12. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Oscar was praying for Hatton to beat Floyd so he could fight him in England - he didn't care that Hatton was with GBP did he? Oscar fought Pac for the money and the fight would have been even easier to make if he was promoting him.
     
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  13. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ha...thats almost as bad as what arum does to pac...only arum doesnt even step in the ring!
     
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  14. ahcef

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    If I am Pac, I will not fight my promoter and vice versa. If ever it happened, everybody would think that the fight is a setup, whoever wins. If Pac won, GBP is just making Pac more marketable for the future. if Oscar won, it should be expected. Bad publicity for GBP.
     
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  15. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    What's bad for GBP - Oscar and Pac making a lot of money fighting each other? If Pac wins, GBP has a huge star and the company makes millions. If he loses, it's to a much bigger guy and no-one holds it against him that much.

    Oscar and Pac fought each other for one reason - they both made a lot of money. I find the notion they wouldn't want to fight each other if Oscar was his boss, ridiculous.
     
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