If GGG beats Canelo he needs to fight Ward for his legacy

Do I know you Lance? You sound like an angry fellow.

 

What is this mess of a response? Can you please clean this up?

And I dont see GGG/Canelo as a big fight because I know Canelo has 0 wins against MW's and Ive seen Golovkin fans trash him. Even just yesterday they are talking about how hes arguably lost 3 times and how he is trash. How can it be big? Because hes a big name?

Again. Being great at boxing doesnt equate to being a big name/seller. Ward is great he doesnt sell. Golovkin is very good but without Canelo he doesnt sell.

 

Canelo fought for the MW title at catchweight. Against a guy who won that title at a catchweight. That guy is Miguel Cotto who is a career, prime, Welterweight who on his worst day is a Jr MW because in the late stages of his career he cant cut weight to be the welter he is really is. Then Canelo defended that "title" at a catchweight against a career welterweight. That guy is the chinny joke known as Amir Khan.

Stop and think about that for a minute. I mean really, really, think about that. Cotto and Khan are Welterweights. Thats who Canelo has fought witht that MW title. And Cotto got it from a crippled Sergio at a catchweight. Im fairly certain nobody thinks a healthy Sergio is losing to Cotto either.

Canelo has 0 wins against MW's guy. You can dress up this pig anyway you like it. Its still a pig.

 

Fair post. I could agree with most of it. But is there any part of you that thinks maybe he doesnt think he would fair too well against ranked, legit, mws? And decided he better chase some money in case he gets beaten up by GGG and virtually renders himself irrelevant? Maybe he doesnt truly think he belongs in that class? When you look at his career thus far and opposition it would suggest he doesnt consider himself a MW right now. Maybe ever really.

And I can agree about fighting for Wards titles at 170 is silly. But you cant tell me Ward being at 168 makes 164 fair. Thats garbage and moving a goal post IMO. You cant tell me now that 168 is fair when Ward moved up. But it wasnt fair when GGG was trying to sign fights at 168 and Ward was already there.

What I think is fair is 170 with a rehydration. No belts. Its easier to put on 8 than it is to lose 8. Asking GGG to go up 8 and Dre to lose 5 is fair if you ask me.

 

When youve tried to make fights at 168 and say "anyone to 168" that implies youd be willing to face the "dominant champion". They simply knew making even 168 would be tough for Ward and threw out a weight he wouldnt agree on to kill any chance of the fight happening and in a sense telling Ward "move up we have no interest". K2 knew exactly what 164 meant. "Kill the fight". Ward was also coming off a nearly two year layoff and isnt known as a big, strong, puncher. 168 was fair.

As Ward stated. When you reply back in 35 minutes you had no intention on making the fight at all. Ward said "You answer back 'no' that quickly without even saying that you will ask your fighter and get back to you. It tells you all you need to know"

As I mentioned. Its easier to put on 8-10lbs than it is to lose 8. 170 with a rehydration for no titles is very fair. Of course its not "fair" if you just dont wanna see the fight at all.

 

Im not leaving that out. I know what Golovkin was holding out for. The problem is, for me anyway, that Golovkins resume STILL leaves alot to be desired. And he waited for almost 2 years for a guy that has been fighting at 147-154 his whole career. Where you see Ward went up and fough top 5 p4p guy twice. Ward already handled his first division.

My issue stems from people saying its ok for GGG to chase Canelo. Who has 0 titles now. And won his title at a CW from a guy that won it at a CW. Canelo has 0 wins at 160. Its ok for him to chase Canelo because its a money fight. Its ok to avoid a riskier fight in Ward to keep that Canelo chance intact. But when Cotto and Canelo were passing that belt around and taking less riskier fights for big money they were called every name in the book.

 

Thats not much of a legacy IMO Joey. Take Hopkins for example. If Hopkins retires after his MW reign he isnt nearly in the same stratosphere as he is thought of now. What he did post MW is what made Hopkins a legend. So you are attaching a name to GGGs record chase that sounds appealing. But its hollow. Hopkins opposition itself at MW is often brought into question by Golovkins own fans. Its Hopkins going up and fight Joe C and others at LHW that make him a legend.

Ya. GGG did earn his mandatory. And he stepped aside and let Canelo and Cotto play with that belt. All in order to hope to get them in the ring. Cotto is a career, prime, Welterweight who went JR MW later in his career cuz he couldnt cut weight. At best Cotto is a JR MW. Yet this is the guy GGGs fans were calling a pansy even though GGG let him do what he did.