If GGG moved up...

making the Canelo gift decision even more clear.

 

Now Rubio was one punch KO'd in 30 seconds by Jantuah. There was no hitting him repeatedly before the knockdown like with Golovkin. Rubio wasn't even able to stand up, like he was able to against Golovkin after he went down. So what are you saying?

 

I think all those guys are notable risers and more proven than mere hype at the same time. Those type of figures/opponents were absent the previous half+ decade. Aside from Jacobs with literal cancer getting Pirog'd, none of Canelo, Saunders, Derev, Murata, or Charlo have gotten knocked or "exposed" whereas Lemieux kinda had. No doubt, Charlo's MW credentials hold no candle to Lemieux's, not saying that. But that's a slew of solid, attractive guys that are all there worthy of either taking zeroes and/or taking at their peak. During Golovkin's whole time with a belt that was never a thing.

 

It seems worth a debate. Why don't forums solve these things logically? I'm not actually trying to debate this, just saying...

What about ranking their best wins at the division among each other?

Who fought more former/future/then titlists?

Who has more wins over top 10 ranked guys? Top 5?

Is your thought based on some potential "fantasy fight/head to head" basis to some extent?

 

It would be good to have a rational debate about it.
Now I'm not saying Golovkin had a epic era but neither did Hopkins.

Both fighters are legends at the weight but again Hopkins struggled with a level of opposition at times that Golovkin gets criticised for allegedly feasting on.

 

i think we should reserve judgement until GGG has finished his career.

 

I can agree with most of what you said, with the exception of calling a fighter exposed. I still feel that, as well as 'ducked' is used too often and recklessly here. If Jacobs was so exposed, he'd have been Ko'd more, IMO.

The thing about Charlo currently is, he isn't any more vested in MW than the lesser attractive guys 3G fought. Until he actually does face top level MW's, he has to have a question mark over his actual status. And personally, I thnk he will prove himself to be a top level MW. But he has to show it. And I have been wrong before. Maybe twice

 

ever since GGG became champ in 2014, he has fougth a total of

-2 good contenders
- one title holder
- titleholder from 2 divisions down
- 2 moderate challengers
. Plus some staybusys

Plus of course an elite titleholder form the division below

This should be enough for anyone to demand of someone over a 4.5year title reign. stop complaining. And if you are still complaining - may I ask, over a 4.5 year reign, what would you expect more of someone??

 

It’s really good for the sport that people are ready to hype new guys like Charlo, but lets get real here. Golovkin has fought more top 10 ranked mw opponents than all the current top 2-10 mw combained and he has beat them all more dominantly. That is a fact.

Charlo might offer challenge style wise, but he hasn’t really done anything to make him better than the rest top 3-10.

Golovkin is ageing and might not be the same fighter he was in 2014-2015, but he surely continues to be the most dominant force in the division.

 

This "moving up" stuff is a bunch of shlt.

 

Noobies seem to think that's how you 'dare to be great'...

 

I agree. I used the quotation marks but really didn't emphasize. I don't use those terms unless it's in some obviously sarcastic manner or in this respect it was relative to people, forum folk/haters/trolls/etc, being able to or actually saying that.

 

GGG would have fought & beaten Clenelo FOUR times by now except Clenelo kept ducking out. How cab GGG kick his ass if he wont fight ??

 

they hve fougt dude. its 2018 now.

 

GGG was robbed you mean