If Golovkin retired today? Hall of Famer?

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    With liberal rules, I think so. Here are mine:

    Boxing's hall of fame is too liberal. I think part of the problem is there are no benchmarks or set of rules for the voters.

    Below are 15 questions i'd like to see asked for fighters who fought in their primes from 1920 to present.



    How long was the fighter champion in years? ( 4 or more to check the box )

    How many title defenses did he make? ( 5 or more to check the box, alphabet titles fights included )

    What is his record vs. fighters in the top ten when he fought them? ( A winning record over 70% or 5 wins total to check the box )

    Was the fighter ranked high in pound for pound ratings for a period of time? ( Use ring magazine rankings for modern fighters. Judgement call for old timers. 3 years to check the box )

    Did the fighter have good longevity for the game? ( Lineal or Ring Magazine Champion at age 35 for old timers, 38 for modern era fighters to check the box )

    Who is the best opponent he beat? ( Should be a champion, or #1 contender to check the box. An easy one to check )

    At his best, how good was the fighter? ( Your best call, critical for fighters who died young )

    Was the fighter avoided or ducked from getting title shots, which likely shortened his title reign? ( Like Liston was, who could have been champion much longer )

    Did the fighter add something extra to boxing ( Bring in new fans, participate in a fight of the year, Score an all time KO, become the 1st of a race or nation to win a championship, Score a memorable upsets vs. an ATG, ect... )

    Would the fighter have been champion in at least three previous decades ( Your best call . 3 or more decades to check the box )

    Was the fighter a good ambassador to the sport of boxing ( An asset outside the ring, famous outside of boxing, and a clean fighter in general to check the box )

    Was the fighter a lineal or ring magazine champion in more than one of the classic 8 weight class ( 2 or more to check the box )

    Was the fighter a popular draw for live gates and television ( Your best call )

    Did the fighter make an impressive comeback after 3 or more years away from the game to become champion again?

    How many losses or draws to non-top ten level fighter in his prime? ( 2 or less for fighters with 40 or less fights, 3 of less for fighters with 50+ fights needed to check the box )


    Scoring tally:

    Fewer than 7 boxes checked the fighter should not make the hall of fame!

    If you check 8 to 9 boxes, I say the candidate is borderline unless he's a heavyweight due to the importance of the division.

    10-11 boxes checked = Induction over time

    12 boxes checked = A virtual lock to make the hall of fame

    13-15 boxes checked = Clear first ballot hall of fame candidate.
     
  2. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With Murray as his best win, I don't think so as much as I highly rate the guy.
     
  3. BCS8

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    He needs a couple of high profile wins first imho. Cotto, Canelo, Ward, Froch, Chavez jr .... two or three from that list ought to do it.

    Skills-wise, he is there already though.
     
  4. Steve_Fox

    Steve_Fox Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ggg is all time great.

    he beat geale, monroe , rubio ,etc . some of the best middleweights of all time
     
  5. Moanamchara

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  6. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    give yourself a pat on the back for such a mundane boring reply
     
  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No.
     
  8. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Yes GGG just retired Carl Froch, HoF inbound.
     
  9. The Shockmaster

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  10. Pimp C

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  11. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    His KO % for a MW fighter has to be up there.

    Tricky one for me, because he has an elite skill set, and is one of the hardest hitting MW fighters ever, everything points towards him being the goods, but until he is in with another elite fighter it is hard to say.

    It reminds me a lot of Jones Jr at MW... It was clear he was a special fighter but questions were not answered until he moved up and beat Toney.. The Hopkins win looks very good in hindsight, but at the time it wasn't thought of as such.
     
  12. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Nope, no HOF for Golovkin if he retired today.

    Mind... blown...
     
  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    If a guy is the best fighter in the middleweight division for this long then yes HOF.
     
  14. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No if Ottke didn't enter He neither and Otke is more acomplished so far.
     
  15. The Man

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    :lol: