After Lemiuex he fights Canelo then Lee and then move up to 168 and fight Ward(by then hopefuuly Ward reestablishes himself) in what will be sold as the #1 and #2 P4P
Jeez.... so, when Ward is tied up in litigation and not fighting anyone how is not fighting him somehow an excuse? Right now the fighters you name are just as popular as Ward. Ward has higher demands, and according to Virgil Hunter still wants another tune up or 2 anyhow. Cotto has yet to fight at 160, and GGG was going to get major PPV pay and media exposure for beating up Jr. It also would have been at 168. GGG also tried to get a fight with Ward's best win. Cant believe you could accuse someone who tried to move up a division to fight Froch in his backyard for their first fight at the weight of lacking gonads. But it seems like you hate GGG because of Cotto, so it makes sense why you know nothing about the Ward situation.
Unless Ward wanted to give up purse split, but Roc didnt even want to talk about the fight. Roc has shown zero interest in making the fight, not even enough to make a counter offer. Ward likes talking about GGG because it generates media exposure, his team has shown no desire to actually make the fight.
GGG isn't a dummy like Dawson, there's zero incentive for him to fight Ward at 168 unless he makes all the stipulations and gets the bulk of the purse.
Lemieux is so overlooked it would be hilarious if GGG loses :rofl honestly after I rewatched the fight with stevens I start to believe ggg is in for a tough fight :mj
How do I hate GGG because I don't call him overrated? Umm that's a factual statement, check the threads asking what's his best win nothing mentioned in there is befitting of a P4P fighter. The Ward situation both sides have said they supposedly tried to fight the other, everything I've seen has K2 making excuses about being a draw like any of the guys GGG's been fighting are draws. Bro I don't hate GGG I'm just not easily impressed by knocking over cans, out of talked about fighters from this era GGG probably has the worse resume, yet people say he's an ATG well gotta prove it then.
Ok Ward vs GGG will never be P4P #1 vs 2, GGG also probably loses to 2/3 guys you mentioned. Also correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't Ward been place in the top 4/5 P4P since he's active again maybe it's just ESPN. Quite honestly this is why he get criticism. How does Alvarez, Cotto, Crawford, Matthysse, Inoue, Kovalev, Broner, D.Garcia, Walters ect.. All have better resumes are beating their opposition in majority dominate fashion, and have actually fought elite fighters. Not get called P4P or future ATG's yet you expect me not to call bull sh!t on GGG who doesn't hold a candle to basically any of him contemporaries
Nice dodge, convo has nothing to do with what you think of the people he has beat. Has nothing to do with your straw man of "some people" talking about ATG or whatever. The discussion has been about how Ward declined to fight GGG, and still is not entertaining the fight unless he gets ridiculous demands met. There have been no excuses about GGG being a draw for not making the fight, the problem is the ridiculous terms Ward thinks he can get. If its such an easy fight for Ward, he shouldnt need PPV level money to take the fight right?
You just lost me now? Both sides have claimed to have tried to make the fight, Only difference is I can find countless statements from GGG's team making excuse about Ward being a draw yet Ward is more known and respected than anyone GGG can fight outside of SA-MC winner. Also what are all these ridiculous demands? The only thing you mentioned is money but a guy who makes more anyway making more isn't ridiculous?
The hypocracy around here amazes me. Folk, Floyd fans mainly, are screaming for GGG to fight Ward. Now Ward fights at 175 & GGG at 160 That's FIFTEEN POUNDS DIFFERENCE!!! Ward would probably be 183 - 185 at least fight night. But those same people say it would be unfair for Floyd to fight at 154. Are they forgetting he claims to be a CHAMPION at 154??? GGG is the fighter Floyd could be if he had a set of champions cojones