If Golovkin's PPV is a success

On the contrary. That's exactly what it does. It changes the "fact" to fiction.

 

GGG fans are definitely some of the biggest ****riding fans. I used to be a big GGG fan, but the nuthugging fans like yourself make me cringe, and not want to support the guy. Like I said, the only reason GGG called Ward out to a catchweight of 164 is to protect his image of wanting to fight everyone from 154-168 like he proclaimed. GGG is super easy to deal with when it comes to weak opposition, but when it's Ward, he wants him to fight at 164 .
The fact that you're saying Abraham is a terrible win is funny, you must think everyone GGG has fought is some of the ****tiest wins in boxing right? Oh wait, no you're one of the biggest GGG nutriders on here, I see you go ballistic and bat**** crazy over defending a guy with a terrible resume.
So if Ward isn't a HOF, then how far away is GGG from the HOF? Because Ward's resume is literally a million times better.
K2 isn't trying to open negotiations LMAO, like I said they're calling ward out in a weight they know he cant make so the moron fans will say GGG is using it as leverage! or Ward is ducking him! He should go down to 164. If GGG actually wanted the fight and step up from the pathetic resume he has of C level-B- level boxers, he should go up to 168 just like he was going to for Froch and Chavez Jr, and put his resume on the line to become something great.
And you're getting who needs who more confused with A side B side. GGG at this point is the A side since he's fighting on PPV, and he'll probably get paid more than Ward's biggest purse which is 500k larger than GGG's at the moment. But even if Ward beats GGG at this point it wouldnt be the best win of his career since GGG has literally beat no one. Ward is already a HOF he doesnt need GGG, GGG needs Ward if he wants to prove he has hof/atg talent.

 

And for the record, I'm pretty damn neutral, I've criticized floyd fans just as much as GGG fans. Here's a quote before GGG fans were getting out of hand like yourself.
"bro, every fan has terrible fans, and some of the pac and ggg one are far worse than floyd's, but if you haven't noticed recently it' s definitely been the floyd fans. If I say anything against Floyd, they jump at my like some hungry jackals, I mean **** I might be a floyd fan boy but I keep **** real, and say what's on my mind, if I think what floyd is donig is *****, then I'll say it."
"Just dudes liek cereal ***tomy, and Cormega who are obvious floyd fan boys that annoy the **** out of me. I cant beleive some of these fanboys are condoning and saying **** like I cant stand people who think this way, when I said that it would be terrible for the sport if Floyd fights berto or mayfield on ppv. And the GGG haters just damn, it's always the same floyd fans and they're all the exact same clones, repeating the same bs they dont even believe."
http://www.x-boxing-forum.com/showt...-officially-resign-from-being-a-Floyd-fan-boy

You're just a huge irrational GGG nuthugger. I wouldn't expect you to admit GGG doesn't want to fight Ward because it's pointless. If GGG got on cam and admitted it you wouldnt accept it, and you'd still keep arguing. Your obsession/defensiveness for GGG is equivalent to MVC and Boxingmasters obsession over floyd and pac, and how defensive they get if anyone criticizes them though both do it in a trolling way. I can sense that you're actually half-serious about this which makes it even sadder.

 

Most numbers will be a success. 150k sells turns a profit.

 

You make lots of ad hominem accusations, but all you offer are non sequiturs.

I will admit you can be neutral at times, but in this case you stopped absorbing facts and using reason a long time ago and just got to that place where you start shaking and frothing and tossing out insults when actual logic starts to increase your level of cognitive dissonance.

When someone grabs the Vaseline and ****s up your backside enough that your skull can finally be dislodged from it let me know. Maybe at time you will realize that when someone is the A-side, and the other guy - Ward in this case - wants to act like the A-side fights can be difficult to make.

When Ward comes out and offers 60/40 in GGG's favor at Forum or MSG at 168, and as long GGG isn't turning it down to face a 160lb guy with a belt for unification instead, then I will absolutely agree that K2 just doesn't want the fight. Until then, any talk is just Ward feeding off the naïve hate of folks like yourself to keep his name in the mix while he works his way into the HOF against the Paul Smiths of the world and reminisces about the days he was relevant after beating Froch like Al Bundy reminisced about his High School football days on Married with Children. :conf

 

don't get mad that I'm telling the truth. You're literally the boxing_master/mvc fanboy version for GGG. For the record I dont think GGG is ducking Ward, I just think he doesnt want to fight him, which is pretty obvious. He called out everyone from 154-168, and was willing to go up for Chavez Jr, yet he's not willing to go up for Ward. Like I said negotiations with GGG is easy when it's a C level guy he has to face. I'll repeat myself for the third time, GGG and k2 promotions had a great plan. I see tons of GGG fans all over youtube etc, talking about how Ward is ducking GGG by not going to 164 . GGG calling out Ward to a weight he cant make wasn't for "negotiations", it was a simple f u, I'm the diva just like the catchweight king Cotto.
Sure Ward just fought a low level guy like Smith, but the sad thing is Smith isn't far off most of GGG's competition . Tell me when GGG fights someone that's even remotely close to being an A level fighter, his fan boys will keep cheering him on while he fights guys that get outboxed by Alcine, and knocked out by Rubio for the rest of his career He's definitely a shoe in for the hall of fame, he's going to have a win over Lemieux, and he has Murray, Geale, and GABRIEL ROSADO! Damnnnn what a resume.
I dont know why I'm bothering even arguing with you, trying to convince you that GGG clearly doesn't want to fight WArd when all the facts are right in front of you, is like trying to convince boxing_master that Pacquiao wasn't injured .

 

Why would GGG want to fight an excellent fighter with a 12lb weight advantage on him who campaigns at least one division up (maybe two now or soon) from him, who brings with him a relatively small financial or popularity reward? It's really kind of a no brainer. Huh?

As I've said before, it's sort of a lose/lose for GGG when it comes to his goal of getting all of the MW belts. If he loses to Ward, which is likely, he hurts his popularity and purse value, which means less money to get the other MW champs into the ring. If he pulls the upset and beats Ward, is another MW champ really going to think he has a prayer of beating the guy who just beat the best 168-pounder in the world? Guys will avoid him even more if he were to beat Ward. So win or lose it doesn't really help GGG in his immediate goal, does it?

Since you say you're an object guy, what has Ward's team really done to get GGG into the ring? Have they presented any offers to Golovkin's manager or promoter? Have they sought monetary commitments from venues or networks to try to create a purse-size that would entice GGG up to 168? What have they done other than talk? Most guys, when they are serious about getting a fight, they get their team making offers, negotiating with venues and networks, and shame the guy to the media if he turns down these offers by stating what was offered and that it was turned down. We haven't seen that from Ward for some reason.

 

Watch out, if you ask sensible questions or make sensible points he might start throwing up walls of text and calling you mean names! :scaredas:admin

 

nah, I've just seen you defend GGG non-stop, it's pretty obvious at this point that you're the boxing_master version for GGG. I haven't seen that guy post about GGG at all so I have no reason to call him out.

 

Oh you are right about one thing, the 164 WAS in fact a big F U. The money was 50/50 on that offer, it was a clear F U saying that if Ward wants the fight (noone thought he would do 164) he was going to have to give up major concessions.

Only an obsessed hater would ever make an assumption that one offer floated publicly should or even could be construed as some sort of final, immutable offer.

 

Why would he be fighting someone 12 pounds heavier, when the fight would be at 168? Didn't GGG say he'd fight anyone from 154-168 or did that just include a CHavez Jr and a nearly 40 year old Froch .
Ward should push for the fight more, but it's obvious that he wants the fight. GGG on the other hand clearly does not, remember Ward just came out of retirement and just had a tune-up recently. It's also hard to negotiate or take a team seriously when they ask for a catchweight they know Ward can't make. We also dont know what's going on behind the scenes. Keep that in mind not everything is public record. What has been shown to the public though is that GGG definitely does not want the fight, and he used the 164 as a diversion to his fans so they assume that he's not afraid of Ward. And they're completely buying it since I see a lot of them saying Ward is ducking GGG now .

 

Like I said only the fanboys would think that. GGG could have just sent an offer with less money on the table, instead of a f u, if you don't take this offer you're ducking me like a whole lot of GGG fans are thinking now.

Only an obsessed nuthugger would defend GGG when it's clear as day that the offer was a complete joke, and a way to trick his fans into thinking he wants the fight when he clearly does not.

 

Ok, so answer me one question:

When exactly did GGG begin ducking Ward?

 

Anyways, I have a feeling you're not going to stop replying until you get the last word, so instead of wasting my time with another boxing_master type fanboy. I'm not going to bother. It would literally be impossible to convince you even if GGG said it himself, you'd twist his words and make it seem like he did want the fight .

 

Once GGG has some PPV success and the IBF/WBC/Ring belts, the ducking ends.

So I'd say we may only have to wait like 2 more fights or so.