If greens better at l/heavy doesnt mundine get better as well

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  1. luds

    luds Active Member Full Member

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    o.k pecker head just for you.
    Small words and big spaces.
    I want to know what people would think if mundine went up to 175.
    Would he lack speed,or be much stronger,would he have better k.o punch,or would he be a different fighter altogether.

    Now dumbo this is what we humans call a what if question.
    We know he isnt going to do it,or even consider it,but its just an intresting question seeing some boxers are better with a few extra kiloson them.

    I never said anything about him going to heavyweight.
    He used to be really good at suppermiddle,wouldve been good to see how he would box weighing what he did in his football days.

    Is it that hard to contemplate mate or does your brain max out and only allow you to do mum jokes that only you laugh at.:-(
     
  2. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think its a fair question.....I also think Mundine will fight at LHW due to Greens new found stardum and the ideal weight for these 2 guys to meet.

    Choc best weight looks to be circa 76kgs

    Lets take a look......

    1. Will the extra 3kgs give choc more power?.....yes if it's muscle....no if its fluid
    2. Will the extra 3kgs slow choc down?......no chance...3kgs of muscle will only help him
    3. Will the extra 3kgs slow his reflexes?.......no

    Will he be a better fighter at 79kgs? yes in some ways....more power same speed

    Will he beat Green at 79kgs?.......oh yeah :deal

    Will he be successful at 79kgs?....don't know as he will be up against harder punches, longer reaches and taller guys.

    Will he beat Green at 79kgs?.......oh yeah :deal....oh I just said that :yep

    The above will all come down to his new training and how he puts muscle on.......I know he's looking at the best trainers that are making guys faster and stronger while losing weight.....but it can also be used to go up divisions as well.....choc is an athlete and will respond well to functioning at most weights within reason.
     
  3. boxoncottonon

    boxoncottonon Boxing Addict banned

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    One question Luds, during the Mundine v Green, throughout the entire 12 rounds which round did you pick Mundine to knockout Green?
     
  4. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    tend to disagree.the reason why choc went down in weight and not up when he dousedhis drawers at the prospect of fighting Kessler is because his body wouldnt be suited to LHW and though he would be still quick he wouldnt be as quick and his questionable punch resistance would be really tested at the higher wait IMO.
     
  5. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You may notice I said choc would be fighting against taller guys with longer reaches and bigger punches.....however at LHW he would still beat Green :yep
     
  6. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    Green losing to Mundine had nothing to do with weight, it was and always will be a skill issue.

    In the first fight he had plenty of stamina throwing right til the end and had plenty of speed in his punches. The only reason Green thinks he can win at higher weight is because he is relying on Choc losing something, it certainly wont be speed or power so he's hoping his skills have faded.

    Mundine should eat a few hamburgers and go teach this Man who daddy is.
     
  7. luds

    luds Active Member Full Member

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    dont recall picking a round but when it became evident green was getting hit cleaner from the 9th round on i sought of thought it may come.
     
  8. luds

    luds Active Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the reply ash.
    Some good points in there,
     
  9. shanemfr

    shanemfr Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He had to leave or fight kessler, he took a **** named it Luds and dropped weight...now doing the same to avoid geale
     
  10. luds

    luds Active Member Full Member

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    Hey shaney boy,you came out to play.
    Where you been mate?
    Heard you live in a two story house now.
    Hope its not going to windy anytime soon,those vinnie bins have no stability when you put one on top of another.:yep:yep:yep
     
  11. shanemfr

    shanemfr Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Start a few more threads etc enjoy cause you aint gonna be around here much longer :good
     
  12. Melbourneborn

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    So.. using this line of thought PBF will be a killer at Cruiserweight!?

    In all seriouesness mate, it doesn't work like that. If Green was killing himself to make weight at 168lbs, to the point where its cons (weightdrained) outweigh the pros (being a big frame in the SMW division) than its obviously going to have a positive effect going up in weight.

    Mundine is a different kettle of fish all together. Because if he was to go up in weight to 175+lbs he wouldn't be alleviating the issue of being weightdrained (as Green is alleged to have). Fixing the problem of being weightdrained is probably the cause of Green apparantly getting better (although I don't neccessarily see it that way) at 175lbs; Mundine wouldn't have the same benefits.
     
  13. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought Green has had 95% of his fights at SMW before the choc fight :huh

    I dont know where everybody gets this drained **** from :-(
     
  14. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did Mundine shoot his mouth off how he destroyed Roy when they sparred in the States?
     
  15. spidot

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    hehehe danny green is not any better at this weight his speed and power look the same to me it's just the quality of opposition he has fought since moving up. I think we have to remember that Danny fought some good opposition at SMW and lost to the better ones eg. Marcus Beyer and Anthony Mundine. oh and mundine didn't leave because he had to fight Kessler has has refused a rematch with mundine since the fight they had, And I doubt that he running from Geale he only just beat him lool.

    I think that people just need to realise that every fighter has a man that is just to awkward to beat ali for forman, buster douglas for tyson, oliver mcall for lennox lewis, lewis for holyfield, mundine for green.......tarver for roy jones???? If Jones hadn't chased tarver 2 then he may have kept a little and continued to fight on.

    Green stay away from mundine he is to good for your style to beat!!!