If Hagler's Nickname was't Marvelous what would it be ?

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  1. turpinr

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    :lol::lol: or 'sir'
     
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    He couldn't say no to superstars like Hearns, Duran and Leonard who were calling him out. By then, Hagler had beaten all the worthy middleweights.

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  4. Titan1

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    I'll be honest, even though he took himself out of the equation by losing to Tony Sibson, Dwight Davidson would've been a very good challenge to Marvin.As well as maybe Mickey Goodwin.
     
  5. Anubis

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    And I think he did TAKE HIMSELF out of the equation. Sibson-Davison looked like a walking tank job to me, not unlike Tyson-Bonecrusher. Although he clearly had the chin to take whatever Tony dished out, I am not at all convinced the reverse is true after seeing Hagler-Sibson, and Tony getting stunned by Dangerous Don Lee. [Sibbo really looked like he was getting back on track after crushing John Collins in Atlantic City. In the same venue after the Lee upset though, he showed a lot of class and rueful humour in the post fight interview, similar to Liston's conduct with Cosell after Leotis Martin.] If former high school wrestling star Davison had wanted to push Tony onto his back foot and keep him there, I think he could have done so. He looked awfully strong against Curtis Parker, and like a wall with Sibson.

    In light of the fact Dwight was never stopped, I am convinced he would have joined Duran and Antuofermo in taking Hagler the championship distance. And how did he ever lose to a beanpole like Epps?
    I was infuriated that instead of postponing Hagler-Goodwin until Mickey's broken hand was sufficiently healed and ready for that title shot, Caveman Lee was allowed to take his place. Lee-LoCicero, as exciting as it was, also made it clear that Caveman didn't have even remotely the punch resistance needed to survive the first three minutes with Hagler. Everybody I knew at the place where I had about 800 coworkers expected a replay of Hagler-Seales III, but Lee didn't last quite that long.

    Meanwhile, the one paleface in the Kronk stable, who Manny Steward called the best natural puncher he ever worked with, would ultimately get stopped once in his 43 fight career, and that took ten rounds a few years after Hagler-Goodwin was originally scheduled to take place. One needed a chin to compete with Marv for any length of time, and Mickey had the punch resistance template Caveman was exposed by LoCicero as lacking. [Lee had also been stopped in four by Frank Fletcher early in their careers.]

    Honestly, I thoroughly believe Goodwin would have lasted considerably longer than Hearns did. Lee never went longer than eight rounds [in an early decision win]. Over the two years and eight wins following the Fletcher loss, William never went longer than the five rounds with LoCicero. [That post Fletcher streak began with Marcos "Chirula" Geraldo lying down in one, the first of two lucrative dives Marcos took for Kronk, out of at least five career count-out opening round tank jobs that clever Mexican ******* got rich out of prostituting himself for, while simultaneously beating the rap for screwing underage putas].

    Goodwin would have squared off with Hagler holding six ten round decision wins [including one over popular ESPN fixture Teddy Mann], a couple of ten round stoppage wins, and a ninth round stoppage for his tune up prior to his shot at Marv. He had plenty of early knockout wins, but also 20 more competitive rounds than Lee in 1981.

    Neither really had the kind of credentials Hagler's other ten challengers did, but Goodwin was clearly better prepared and equipped to make a fight of it, if either was going to.