If Hatton beats manny pacquiao does he surpass Calzaghe in the British ATG rankings?

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  1. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Thats like saying Spurs are a better team than Man Utd
     
  2. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    nah
     
  3. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Amazing post, once again JonOli proving your one of the biggest idiots on this board add that to being a massive Calzaghe hater.

    You wouldnt know an objective post if it slapped you in the face.
     
  4. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Where are my "hate posts" for Calzaghe in this thread?

    Get back to your "Chin Checking Club", in the general, son. You're obviously very upset at the result of the poll so far, so I will forgive you for your rather juvenile outburst.
     
  5. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Nearly everything you post has some sort of hidden agenda against Calzaghe such as this thread !

    Im not even surprised at the poll results. Pac's wins against 2 human corpses has everyone fooled.

    Answer me this jonoli, if Hatton beats Pac (Which I honestly think he will) will you class him as a better fighter than Floyd Mayweather because Hatton will have 2 wins (tszuy and pac) better than Floyd's and you said earlier you basing this on resume ??
     
  6. Diablo

    Diablo Active Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe is retired..but that hasnt put an end to JonOli's hate campaign against him. Its starting to get a little bit creepy not to mention dam right boring. Move on already!
     
  7. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Perhaps he's Froch :lol:
     
  8. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Haha

    And he DENIES being a Calzaghe hater. Amazing :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  9. toffeejack

    toffeejack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This could be an interesting debate if people put their obvious bias to one side.

    Why don't we start by comparing they attributes as boxers, then their resumes and accomplishments?

    For example as a starter:

    Handspeed
    Footwork
    Strength
    Adaptability
    Jab
    Speed
    Body work
    Inside work
    Stamina
    Workrate
     
  10. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    If we're talking p4p then



    Handspeed - Calzaghe
    Footwork - Calzaghe
    Strength - Hatton
    Adaptability - Calzaghe
    Jab - Calzaghe
    Speed - Calzaghe
    Body work - Hatton
    Inside work - Calzaghe
    Stamina - Calzaghe
    Workrate - Calzaghe


    8-2 Joe
     
  11. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny would be an excellent win, but a fighter well out of his best divisions.
    KT was wrestled in Manchester.

    KT and MP outweigh Calzaghe's opposition on paper.

    But Ricky lost against Mayweather, so he wasn't the best.

    Calzaghe beat all at 168, and won against bigger names at the higher weights.

    I still think Joe is the best, as he won all belts at 168lbs.

    Ricky also gets points deducted for not fighting Witter and for targeting easy belts, Collazo, Maussa, Urango.

    Calzaghe beat Eubank, Hopkins, Roy Jones - Big names 1990's!!!
    Also undefeated Kessler and Lacy.

    Ricky would have to beat Manny and another good fighter at 140 and a hard champion at 147 to draw with Calzaghe.
     
  12. 9Ball

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    He said 'putting bias to one side' :good
     
  13. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Oh well if we're putting bias to one side then that means we're not talking p4p


    So 9-1 for Calzaghe as ive switched strength over to him. He'd also have advantages in height and weight :lol:
     
  14. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Because all these attributes look better when you're fighting **** opposition. Resume and accomplishments are indisputable facts.
     
  15. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I make a valid thread asking how a win over Pac will affect Hattons British ranking (when compaired to Calzaghe) and you say it has "a hidden agenda".:lol: What is the agenda? and Where is the hidden bit?

    If you look into my opening post I credit Calzaghe as being currently ahead.

    As far as Floyd Mayweatehr goes, he is hugely held back in ATG rankings because of his resume. He would be rated far higher if he had a better resume. He has a decisive win over Hatton anyway.

    Besides, there are always exceptions to the rule: Floyd Mayweather and Roy Jones being two very recent examples - who gain a little kudos because they really were that good. Calzaghe is not in their league, imho.

    Anyway this poll is not about who is the best fighter, but who will rank higher all time in the British rankings (if Hatton should beat Pac). The two don't necessarily go hand in hand.