If Hatton Is A Blown Up Junior Welter, Mayweather Is A Blown Up Junior Lightweight!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by southpaw1974, Dec 26, 2007.


  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I knew and said that the weight would be an issue for Hatton before the fight. Hatton relies on his strength at 140 to wear down and overpower his opponents, at 147 he doesn't have that edge. Great win for Floyd, but alot of Welterweights could have beaten Hatton. Do you at least agree with that last statement?
     
  2. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not many (if any) small welterweights who moved up from 130 could have beaten Hatton (and almost certainly wouldn't have knocked him out). Also, remember before the fight that the punching power and strengh edge was being given to Hatton, not Floyd. I find it ironic that the guy who was given the puncher's chance got knocked out and later labeled "too small for his naturally bigger/stronger opponent". This was an exceptional situation given that Hatton was facing a non-natural Welterweight in Floyd and not a natural 147lber like Cintron or Margarito.
     
  3. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Mayweather was at 130, 7 years ago ffs.
     
  4. TFFP

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    There are two different things here

    Mayweather - Just an exceptionally good boxer, weight isn't an issue. The fight being at welter is just a side note
    Welterweights - Too big, Hatton doesn't have a chance
     
  5. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather is 5'8 with a nice reach of 72 inches. He looked phenomenal in the DLH fight, broad shoulders, he could fight at 154 and be succesful. Hatton on the other hand is very small, he is 5'6 67 inch reach and would get eaten alive at 154.
     
  6. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed, I would possibly give him a chance against Judah, however. That would actually be a very interesting fight.
     
  7. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, but you understand what I was saying. He's a guy that is not a natural welter and fought at below 147 for 90% of his career.
     
  8. TFFP

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    I'll change that to the elite circlejerk of welterweights that people are bigging up at the moment. Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito, Williams and maybe Cintron he stands little to no chance

    I could definitely see Judah folding under the pressure. He's past his best, and if Hatton saw off the first 3 rounds he'd win
     
  9. maciek4

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    He is also 5 foot 8 inches tall has 72 inch reach, broad shoulders and a frame that can handle 154 easily. Compare this to Hatton who is 5'6 67 inch reach and not muscular.
     
  10. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've actually made reference to Mayweather's reach many times. His arm length is incredible (26 inches). He has the same arm length as Wladamir Klitschsko believe it or not!! However, again people are forgetting how many were giving the strength edge to Hatton and were making it a 50/50 fight based on Hatton's strength, pressure, and aggression.
     
  11. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    Now you are stretching it :lol:
     
  12. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, I'm serious. Watch the next Klitschko fight when they show the tale of the tape. They both have a 26 inch arm lenth (measured from the armpit to the end of the fist). Klitschko of course has a much longer reach when you factor in his chest and shoulder width. The arm length, though is actually more logical to measure and they have the same arm length.
     
  13. sambob

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    His size doesn't matter one ****ing bit. If he weighs 147 at the weigh in,, he's a welterweight. Night of the fight he looked to me exactly like he did when he fought at 140, somewhere around 150-155.

    If you are fighting a bigger guy, you have to make stylistic adjustments to your fight plan. Mayweather has been doing it all his career fighting guys like Corrales who are much talller, naturally heavier like Carlos Baldomir, or guys who are both like Oscar de la Hoya.

    Hatton can't do it because he only HAS one fight plan. He only fights one type of fight, and this time he fought a fighter who was talented enough to deal with it.

    People keep saying Hatton won't go back to 147, well I bet he would to fight an Oscar de la Hoya or someone else who can make him millions and millions of pounds/dollars/euros.

    And I bet before too much longer he'll HAVE to fight at 147 because he won't be able to make 140 anymore.

    Furthermore, all during the build up for the fight Billy Graham kept saying "Ricky really CAN fight at welterweight. When he fought Collazo he didn't properly build up to 147. This time he will be a real welterweight"

    Then after the fight he says "I'm not making excuses, but I've always said Ricky is a junior welterweight."

    So which is the truth? Neither, they're both bull****. Ricky can't hang with welterweights? Okay, fine. Well his last fight against a 140 lb fighter was a shot LIGHTWEIGHT, so how do we know he can still out muscle junior welterweights?
     
  14. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    all this weight stuff is a load of nonsense. How can a guy go from being a beast (as some of you make out) to being average 7lbs north of that?
    Bollocks.


    Just accept Hatton has looked worse for other reasons, not least because he's been fighting harder opponents.
    Hatton was oveerated all along.
    As long as Tszyu and Castillo show us nothing since fighting Hatton, it's fair to deduce they were both done...as suspected....especially in the case of Castillo. After that there's nothing special on his record.
     
  15. auggiewest

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    some styles are able to move up in weight easier. hatton depends on bullying guys and cant do it at 147