If Hatton is not 'shot' could he beat Cotto?

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  1. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Cotto was a top class amateur anyone who thinks he's just brawler must just watch his highlight clips.
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Would he bollocks, not ever.

    It's all very well following the Margarito/Clottey "blueprint" but Margarito took a hammering early, and Clottey is known for his tight defence.
     
  3. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Its not the Margo blueprint, people have been saying in 2005 that Cotto doesn't like sustained pressure. Peak Hatton at 140 would beat the best version of Cotto that made 140 IMHO.
     
  4. Davro

    Davro u wnt sum i`ll give it ya Full Member

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    How does Hatton have the 'style' to beat Cotto btw?

    Cotto only got beat by Margarito because he had a granite chin, and Cotto exhausted himself trying to KO him. Then it turned out Margarito was using illegal wraps as well. Cotto took Mosley's power shots to head and body for 12 rounds, something Margo couldn't - I don't know how Hatton trumps that.

    Hatton doesn't have a granite chin - he would be eating Cotto's jabs with his tactics of using his face to block jabs. Tszyu rocked him a few times with some basic jabs and straights, Cotto would be far more intense with the pressure. And wouldn't throw in the towel like Tszyu did - as we saw last night he is a warrior.

    Cotto is physically much bigger. I can't see how Hatton wins this at all. He would get picked off by Cotto's jabs and straights, and Hatton would keep walking on to them trying to get on the inside. And once there, Cotto would work Hatton with powerful hooks to his body and chin.

    The only similar fight Hatton has fought is v Pacquiao - in terms of continually walking on to powerful shots and not being able to dominate the contest. It's not a perfect comparison but would be similar - Hatton would try to close down and try to get in range, but would eat leather and take some sick body damage trying to do so.

    A prime Hatton would be KOd in about 5 rounds, a modern Hatton wouldn't reach three and would probably have his face shredded to boot.
     
  5. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Of course it is. He would try and do the exact same thing in the misguided belief he could also walk through Cotto's punches, and that would be his undoing. And wrestling isn't really going to get the job done as convincingly as Margarito who never stopped punching.

    Cotto at 140 was peak well before his "struggles" with Malignaggi and Torres, that was when things were getting tough.

    Ultimately it doesn't really matter, Cotto is a welterweight and I think his work there is what he will be remembered for. He's a better fighter than Hatton with a better record.
     
  6. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    How do you know Margarito was using illegal wraps against Cotto?
     
  7. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Cottos peak at 140 is well before his peak as a fighter and obviously before the weight problems. Thats one of the reasons I give Hatton an excellent chance, you'd have a 27 prime fighter in against the improving but still green 24 year old Cotto.
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    That is the problem. If its to be prime for prime it has to be at welterweight and Hatton has no chance at all.
     
  9. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I'd have Cotto favourite but I still think its doablefor hatton given the styles.

    As you say though, its been done to death and the fight will never happen.
     
  10. Davro

    Davro u wnt sum i`ll give it ya Full Member

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    Because Cotto took harder shots v Mosley IMHO.

    Something never added up in Cotto getting KOd by Margo to me.

    Now Margo has been caught stiffening his wraps v Mosley, there is no doubt in my mind he did it with Cotto too.

    We can't go back in time, but it's not as if it's unfair to have suspicions is it? Margarito got caught doing it v Mosley, and Cotto was the fight before. If Margo KOd Cotto fairly, the best and hardest at 147, why would he need to cheat to beat Mosley?

    COTTO WAS ROBBED :hey
     
  11. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    It wasn't just the punches that did for Cotto in that fight, he was mentally and physically exhausted from the pressure Margo was putting him under.

    Until someone comes up with proof, that result stands IMHO.
     
  12. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I have much love for Hatton but he has no chance against anyone at that level now. Its over and he need to either have a send off in Manchester or bail completely. He's a good lad and a millionaire no point risking your health. Watching Hatton get stiffened did nothing for me.
     
  13. GazOC

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    I agree Jeff, he needs to look a level below Cotto for any future fight in may be thinking off.
     
  14. SouthpawSlayer

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    not a hope in hell another bad stoppage for the hit man, his best bet is a fight with campbell or juan diaz
     
  15. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I think he may be able to beat Campbell - good call, but Diaz would have too much for him.