if Hatton retires today, is he a hall-of-famer?

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    slithering out? wtf. you said Pac could use Hatton as a measuring stick to Floyd, i said there was already Oscar for that.

    At the end of the day, measuring sticks don't work cause styles make fights.
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    It's probably a mix of his basic vibe on Hatton and all the threads that are floating around right now. He'll be alright. If the fight comes off they will see the truth.
     
  3. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I flat out did not say that. At all.

    I said that Pacquiao has more negotiating power in a future fight with Floyd, should he beat Hatton. Here's the quotation, in bold, and you can try answering it again: Does Pacquiao have more financial drawing power at the negotation table against Floyd if he beats Hatton, or does beating Hatton do zero for him, as you claim?

    Your claim is that Pacquiao gains no drawing power, no negotiating power, in fact, nothing at all (since you've claimed it is "no-win") by defeating Hatton. Now answer the question. Thanks, and nice try.
     
  4. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's even trying to twist my words now. It's almost funny. He needs to own up to the fact that he posted absolute bull**** in the other thread, rather than trying to dodge it.
     
  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Does a win over Hatton significantly increase Pacquiao's negotiating power against PBF? no. Not significantly. PBF already KTFO of Hatton. He's been there, done that. If you wanna argue that I said it does zero rather than insignificant, be my guest. You're clutching at straws. My point still stands.

    What is Pac gonna say? "You dominated and KTFO HAtton but I beat him too so give me more money"

    be realistic.
     
  6. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, your point simply does not stand. Your point was that Pacquiao won't gain from beating Hatton, and that is utterly false.

    Also, the difference between "significant" and "no-win" is very different. Some future advice would to not be dogmatic in the future, so you won't wind up looking like a hack with an agenda.

    Clutching at straws might be your attempt to smooth over the fact that you failed at putting words in my mouth with your "measuring stick" lies, failed to shift the focus from your failed argument, and your inability to admit you were wrong.
     
  7. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spot on.

    I know you won't give a **** but you really have gone up in my estimation over the past few days!:good
     
  8. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, he's already going in like it or not. Rightly or wrongly, the HOF is not entirely about who you fought anyway.
     
  9. LoveMuffin

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    Two weight world champ and won just about every title at light welter. I think thats good enough for the hall-of-fame.
     
  10. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    as HOF, pretty sure. 100 ATG, i seriously doubt it.
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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  12. homebrand

    homebrand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's been dominant in the 140 class, but then there hasn't been much class to contend with.

    It's like David Haye being king of cruiserweight. That's great and all, but there is no serious opposition.

    The fact that Paul Malignalli was ranked second only to Hatton at 140 says it all: it's a **** division. He is The king of ****.

    That's not to say that Hatton is not talented though, clearly he's pretty good. He was awesome against Kosta Tszyu. And he showed great grit and determination against Mayweather, but I don't think he's done nearly enough to be considered a Hall of Famer.

    Who knows: i think he potentially has it in him to change all that in his last few fights, but when I think of great fighters from a past era such as Nigel Benn, Eubank, Hagler, Tyson... he ain't there yet in my opinion.
     
  13. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Barely on his 15th post and you have surpassed many posters here in boxing knowledge :good

    Co-sign with the noob
     
  14. imp4pdabest

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    LoL. I gotta give that kid props.
     
  15. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    why give props when he doesn't understand what the hall of fame is, hatton easily hall of fame atg no chance.