If Haye beats a Klitschko, where does he rank P4P?

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  1. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was undisputed and ranked 1# Cruiserweight champion and if he beats Vitali he beats them all fact.
     
  2. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    top 15, i'd say 11 or 12
     
  3. David UK

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  4. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    What kind of fighters are in your top ten and what have they done that would be more impressive?
     
  5. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anything from 11 to 15.

    You see Darchinyan dominated a FlyW division stronger than Haye's CW was. Donaire knocked him out, he moved up, won a title then beat a legitimate P4P-er in Mijares in another dominating performance to have 3 belts in his 2nd division. Still, people doesn't rank him in top10. I think 8 to 10 is legit there.

    Beating Wlad would still mean Haye is far from Darchinyan's achievements.

    Or look at Calderon. After years of dominating the SW division, moved up and beat the best fighter there two times, picking up The Ring belt. Haye lacks domination in the CW division, although he was a legitimate undisputed champ. And Wlad is not clearly no1, now as his brother returned. And other than Vitali, there's Chagaev, no way Haye can crack into the top10 without beating them.

    CW was an average division when Haye left, (ironically it's now much stronger with fighters like Adamek, Alexeev, Cunningham), and HW is very weak. So beating one Klitschko would mean a very decent run combined with the CW achievements, but objectively speaking, I can name 10 other fighters who has a better resume out there.
     
  6. Jordan

    Jordan Active Member Full Member

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    ???! Not undisputed??! What do you to do these days to achieve this feat then??
     
  7. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye was undisputed IMO.Ok he never had the IBF belt but he beat the man in the CW division impressively in his home town and unified against a man who was hyped up as the No.2 in the division(though we know this isn't true)He was the best in that division hands down
     
  8. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    All of those were in the CW division when Haye was beating Mormeck to become linear champion at the end of 2007.

    Cunningham's only had one fight since the end of 2007 and he lost it...
     
  9. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Personally, I'd have him at #7.

    It seems the top 10 comtingent are winning the vote, and he is closer to the top 5 than top 15 if he wins!
     
  10. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Macca was only #2 in the UK. He was at 4 or 5 in Ring mag and is much lower nowadays.
     
  11. mckay_89

    mckay_89 Haw you! Full Member

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    I'd sneak him in at 10 if he beats a Klitschko. If he were to beat both Klitschko's next year he'd be 5th or 6th depending on Calzaghe retiring.

    Heres what i hope my pfp top 10 looks like by the end of 2009:

    1. Pacman (after beating Hatton)
    2. JMM (after beating Diaz and Campbell)
    3. B-Hop (after beating Dawson)
    4. Margarito (after beating Mosely and Cotto)
    5. Haye (after beating both Klits)
    6. Williams (after beating Winky and Forrest)
    7. Calderon ( after continuing to outclass every light flyweight!)
    8. Juanma (after beating Vasquez and Marquez/Cabballero)
    9. Cotto (After beating Jennings, losing to Marg and beating Clottey)
    10. Vasquez (After Losing to Juanma then beating the loser of Cabbalerro/Marquez)

    This clearly won't be correct but i'd love for all those fights to be created!