If Haye beats Wlad and Vitali back to back is he a top15 HW?

No Haye isnt in the top 15. He could get in there if he was to beat the Klits, plus Adamek, Povetkin and some of the other big names, but that aint gonna happen, so no. he doesnt belong in there.

Its like Holyfield coming up from CW, fighting Holmes and Foreman and then retiring.

 

Yeah I'd say so too.

On a sidenote, I saw somedody commenting about the Haye-Valuev fight btw, I only scored it once but I thought it was a draw and afterwards I thought I may have been guilty of being generous to Haye with the scoring. I can't watch it again though man, ****ing **** fight.

 

Jack told me I was a ****** who knew nothing about boxing for scoring it 7-5 SNV

 

Jack?

 

No.

Look, I rate the Kilt boys at the moment because they have cleaned out the superheavyweigts. Note I say super heavyweights. The division they have dominated has plunged into a league of fighters experimenting with their bodyweight mass at the expense of trying to be good lean, fast paced fighters who used to be called "heavyweights".

imagine in the 1930s if max schmeling, jack sharkey, max baer, jim braddock and their contenders all weighed 240lb so they could compete with carnera?

If haye beats wlad all it means is he beat a big guy who was hard to beat. ATG's are great fighters not difficult jab and grab superheavyweight guys who are hard to beat. If haye beats vitali then he beats a big guy who was awkward but could also fight.

 

random thought: watching haye/ruiz now and that little ***** scored 3 knockdowns off of blatant rabbit punches. gutless ref and cheap fighter. end of thought

 

Boxing is a rough game.

Ruiz knows all about being a dirty fighter. :yep

 

Upon reflection, I can definitely say that if haye beats both klitschko's in dominant fashion I would rank him above charles and jersey joe. Maybe even langford.

I can't put him above the long reigning types like jeffries, sull, wlad, frazier etc. I also don't think he'll have done quite enough as tyson or holyfield because he won't have the longevity. Perhaps if he stayed around and beat pov, chag and adamek I might change my mind.

 

Possibility. But even more I think it shows a little more weakness in those two guys. It shows some light on how they would do against real ATGs.

 

Haye is a overrated HYPEJOB h2h. It is beyond a ****ing joke. Haye is rusty as ****. Bum Fraudley threw 1 jab @ Haye in a fishy fixed fight. So Haye's last taster of experience is taking 9 Rounds to use rabbit punches to TKO 38 yr old Shot Ruiz, But Tua KTFO Prime Ruiz 14 years earlier in 19 seconds lol!

 

Apart from Haye and Tua,anyone else stop Ruiz in his 55 fights?

 

I think you'll find the odds makers gave Tucker, Spinks & Ruddock (rematch) good chances to win.

 

Only some general forum ******s & Wlad-fanboys hyping him up said frigging Ibragimov was a threat to Wlad, i gave him no chance & i don't know anyone who did, please read my posts about why Haye is Wlad's best opponent so far...

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10071210&postcount=36

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10071379&postcount=43


Note: Tyson was still considered the "Baddest Man on the Planet" by most when he fought Ruddock.

 

:rofl 'Ears


You didn't have an argument against my factual posts, so you instead dig up some comedic nonsense to show me. :blurp