If Haye had been around in Tysons era

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  1. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Spinks would KO that ******
     
  2. Dizzle

    Dizzle Active Member Full Member

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    I think Tyson is one of the most over-rated Heavys of all time. Haye however is terribly average.

    I wouldnt bet against Tyson if he came back now! Tysons style is Hayes worst nightmare!
     
  3. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Branding the racism card is so typical of someone void of any common sense.

    Tyson has that glass jaw himself, therefore as Haye is faster and hits harder, oh not forgetting he isn't 1 dimensional like Tyson, then Haye smashes Tyson, just like Williams and McBride did.
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  4. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Tyson was refreshed you idiot and at his peak age, besides, Lewis smashed Tyson all the time in sparring, Tysons biggest gift came when Lewis targetted the olympics, Lewis utterly devasted him, Tyson was a fraud like Mayweather and Mosley are today.
     
  5. mcnamai

    mcnamai Active Member Full Member

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    Oh My god! Dont you listen you ******! Tyson was in jail for 4 years. All the attributes that made him so dangerous were gone. He was already on the slide before going to jail. He wasn't training with the same intensity. By the time he got out of jail he was a SHADOW of the fighter he used to me. God your fcuking dumb
     
  6. mcnamai

    mcnamai Active Member Full Member

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    That is the most ******ed comment I have ever read on any boxing forum. Refreshed! after 4 years in jail! OH MY GOD...:-:)huh

    Seriously I can't agrue what a man who is this stupid
     
  7. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    If anything it made him tougher you idiot, look what 2 years off did for Mayweather, he smashed that fraud hypejob Marquez then did the sam to another fraud.
     
  8. Shane W

    Shane W Former Heavyweight Full Member

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    Exactly how KOes does Haye have at heavy?? I mean where the fighter was so gone he was either counted out or legs were gone. I am not talking about going down and not getting up on steady legs. None. How many actual KOes are on Tyson's record? Also if you call what Williams and McBride did smashing him you know nothing of what a true beating is. Which is something I would gladly introduce a person like yourself to.:bbb
     
  9. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Well washed up Carl Thompson beat the **** out of Haye, so what does that say about Haye?
     
  10. Shane W

    Shane W Former Heavyweight Full Member

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    Lewis even admits that it was TYSON smashing him in sparring. Rewriting history are we. :roll:
     
  11. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Beat th **** out him? haye smashed him till Haye gassed in his 10th pro fight!!! then Thompson got about 1min 30 of hits in, Haye showed great courage and heart, haye has since smashed up everyone he has met, hence why Vitali and Wlad ducked him.

    Mcbride, holder of 0 titles smashed up Tyson to the extreme, at least Thompson was a great champion, Mcbride is a nobody, and Williams isnt much better.:patsch
     
  12. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    proof?

    This is what Lewis said:

    We heard about this young cat up in New York named Mike Tyson, so my trainer and I got on the road and we drove up to the Catskills, NY to a little gym like an old fire station. There was a guy in there and his name was Mike Tyson. There was another guy named Cus D'Amato. We went in there and decided we could help each other and do some sparring. Anyway, the first day when we stepped into the ring to spar, this cut runs across the ring and wanted to knock me out. I gave him my Muhammad Ali impression and I was dancing around, boxing him. We were going at it pretty good. We went at it pretty good for four days. Tyson never knocked me out in those four days. He did give me a fat lip, but I gave him a bloody mouth, so we were pretty even in that exchange.

    Stop lying, and the trainers said Lewis figured him out and got the better of him:deal
     
  13. taobum70

    taobum70 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hmmm, very strange arguments indeed. Haye has a higher KO rate than Tyson with four fights at HW and the rest at cruiser. Give Tyson Haye's opposition and you will get a 100% KO rate. Tyson's KO ratio was also lowered considerably by him fighting way pas his prime. So this is an entirely nonsensical argument.

    Where is Haye's supposed blinding speed against Fragomeni or Mormeck? Tyson moved like a steamroller through the ring, Haye has only fast hands but little in terms of overall speed compared to Tyson. Haye's defense better than Tyson's? Do you really think Fragomeni would have competitive rounds with Tyson or Mormeck would floor him? Haye is a very talented but sloppy fighter. He is accomplishing all his goals? he wanted to go up to HW to only fight the best, accusing the Klitschkos of fighting weak opposition. Two years later, he has a belt that only belonged to Valuev because of corrupt politics and is in no hurry to fight a Klitschko. His goal to retire at 31 is entirely incompatible at this point with unifying the division.
     
  14. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    OK dude , time to put the crack pipe down
     
  15. Caelum

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    Lewis didn't think so. Actually, he said he was shocked at what Tyson was able to take. First time Lewis said his hands swelled up after a fight.


    That's also a "Shot" version of Tyson. He gassed out early which then makes you more vulnerable to be taken out. Plus, years of wear and tear soften the chin. You can only take so much.

    Tyson took beatings to be taken out and when he was, he was exhausted by then.

    Now David Haye...:rofl