If Holy does well...

It serves the thread perfectly.

Fighters are judged in relation to each other.

 

So this is what you Lewis fan(atic)s have come to? You are judging Lewis greatness through 45 year old Holyfield's attempt at Sultan Ibragimov's world title in Moskow... It would have been easier to go directly to those threads with Lewis ( or Wlad) virtually fighting all ATGs. But I never judged you, Lewis or anyone else just asked you to keep Lennox ( or Wladdy) out of this but since you r willing to get everyone in there, please be my guest... I promise you that I won't reply fo' sure.

 

I am not certain if you are promising to reply or promising not to reply.

Anyhow, as preposterous as my initial post was, and was meant to be, it shows that you can never really measure how "shot" a fighter is.

Would it make Holyfield Greater? Difficult question.

Do you count the Title win and ignore his losses? Or do you count both?

People can interpret these things in any way they see fit, and my very point was that bias will always enter the equation.

 

Since you recognize that your post was meant to be proposterous, you have to be sure I was not about to reply again... But Godamn, you ask me serious questions now and I can't help myself again...

No, a win over Sultan would not make Holyfield greater and surely wouldn't make Lewis any better... They, Lewis and Holyfield, fought in equal terms, one got the best and retired, the other has his ambitions that have nothing to do with the past or past opponents.

I don't count the Title win, neither I ignore his losses, just like to see him win and this ain't different from any other Holyfield fight for me, I wish him to win regardless.

Finally, you've put it best, bias will always enter the question but biased toward whom? Holyfield? Holyfield's opponents no matter who they come to be? Biased towards Tyson cause Holy and Mike had a dispute in 96, 97? Biased towards Lewis cause he beat Holyfield or is that draw that is affecting his (Lewis') legacy still? Nothing of what may come through these Q&As makes sense... R U interested in Holy vs Iggy in 2007? If not, what else do we have to talk about? All the best...