If Holyfield beats Ibragimov .....

your preachin to the converted bro...im a huge holyfield fan..(you may have noticed....).......

 

Holyfield fall slightly short of greatness. As a rule the Heavyweights suck quality wise amongst the classic eight, and I can only find places for three full-time Heavies on my Greatest list (Ali, Louis and Foreman).

Holyfield has never retired from the ring, so although he compares age wise with Foreman, his achievements are not in the same league. A victory over Ibragimov would not compare to an unbeaten Moorer either.

It annoys me as well about this four time champion rubbish. Anyone and I mean anyone can claim alphabet crap four times if they wish...

It also taints Holyfield, because one of his excellent achievements is being one of only five fighters to regain THE Heavyweight Championship of the World.

 

I don’t think Holyfield will win the fight. I beleive Ibragimov will easily out box, and possibly TKO Holyfield if he tires. Look for Ibragimov to fight Holyfield the same way he schooled Briggs. Irbagimov is a swarming attack orrented fighter by nature, but vs Briggs he proved he could use his footwork, speed, and skills to out box a bigger / slower opponent. It was an impressive albeit somewhat boring performance for Ibragimov. The key thing to focus on here is most swarmers lack this type of versatility.

Older fighters can’t deal with speedy / skilled opponents with more stamina than they have. They need to land a bomb in these types of fights. Holfyield best chance in my opinion is to catch Ibragimov with his hook.

If Holyfield manages to win this fight, it will be his best win in the past few years and add a bit to his legacy. How much remains to be seen. We really don’t know how good or bad Ibragimov really is at the top level. If Holyfield defeats Ibragimov and Ibragimov bounces back to win on of the world title belts, then the win will mean a bit more.

 

sure foreman beat an unbeaten michael moorer....he also beat a blown up light heavyweight known for two things...big power/no chin.....made for george(george was getting beat out of sight in the figh, but anytime he connected it was always gona be over...).......i maintain that holyfield beating sultan, if it happens, will be a greater acheivment...

 

Moorer like Ibragimov was no great shakes, but Moorer did have THE Heavyweight Championship of the World and Foreman had to taken a beating to get his dues; that makes it even more special IMO.

If Holyfield wins, what does he gain other than beating a fighter with an '0'? Everyone on the general board will turn like a pack of animals on Ibragimov.... Holyfield would not of won, rather Ibragimov lost.

 

going on the little iv seen and heard of sultan, the pack on here will be hypocrites in the extreme if they turn on him...most have been extolling his virtues as an up and comer......and is such a great amount of kudos to be put on 'linear' status...wasnt shannon briggs linear champ at one point.......as in the man that beat the man that beat the man etc.....i can see holyfield pulling this one out..im not viewing the old codger thru rose tinted gogles, but im not with the sultan fans....what has he done and who has he beat to make him such a huge challenge for a man of evanders talent...sure its a time eroded talent, but i wouldnt be to sure that he doesnt upset this, and maybe one more applecart before permanantly retiring...and before y'allargue that how can i belittle sultan and say that vander beating him would rank higher than foreman beating moorer, its just that i aint sure of sultan...but im damn sure i dont rate moorer as a heavyweight...

 

The difference is that Holyfield is 45 and has been in tons of wars over the last twenty (!!) years, whereas Austin, Castillo et al were relatively fresh although they were being overmatched.

The fact that Holyfield never retired (for a long period) whereas Foreman took 8 years away from the punishment would make it even more impressive if Holyfield wins.


Anyway, i didn't imply that you have to King Kong to take on the Sugar Prince Wladdy, although he is on an impressive winning streak.
My point was that Holyfield is old, has been in wars and already has a slurring speech, and the only thing he'd end up with after fighting Wlad now is additional brain damage. I'd like him to retire.
That said, if he does win a title belt, i'd like the fight to be made just as much as i'd like any other unification fight.

 

Foreman taking the title from Moorer was the greater achievement because Moorer had taken the title from Holyfield who was the real champ. If Ibragimov had taken the title from Wlad first and Holyfield would then beat Ibragimov it would be a comparable achievement, but as it is....

 

If Holyfield beats Ibragimov I will be surprised and impressed, but beating Ibragimov isn't going to move anyone up on my all time list. Even if they are a 44 year old e heaveyweight champion.