If Holyfield Were In The FOTC, Against Ali?

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  1. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He hit an old man in George Foreman 18 consecutive punches and couldn't get him outta there. He was NOT a big puncher. Average as a heavyweight at best, at best.
     
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  2. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    I can't predict for one reason.
    Only one of those who wrote on the thread before me made a good point IMHO that Holyfield would use the head.
    All kinds of scenarios can happen, Rahman's scenario can also happen :)
     
  3. BCS8

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    Lewis his McCall with everything but the kitchen sink and couldn't stop him. I guess Lewis couldn't punch either.
     
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  4. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bowe spent effectively his entire career avoiding punchers.
     
  5. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was completely average as a Heavyweight. Not even slightly above mid-range. To call him a great puncher is far-fetched, IMO. Great how? Power? Speed? Technique? He was fine in all of these. Nothing more.
     
  6. BCS8

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    Sure it did! Just look at how guys from the 70s are stronger, factually, than people in later time periods. Ali may have been lighter and less ripped than roided up Holyfield who was bigger .... but he was stonger for sure! And Foreman was, at about 220lb, the strongest heavyweight in history. It's ULTRADUST!!! How else could they be so magnificent?
     
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  7. BCS8

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    You're the one calling him a great puncher dude.
     
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  8. BCS8

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  9. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    “He was a good, if not great puncher.”

    You, page two.
     
  10. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire banned Full Member

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    Herbie Hide, Andrew Golota, Bert Cooper... The names on his list were small but Bowe could still take a punch for how leaky his defense was. Witherspoon said that Golota was the strongest man he faced, and Bowe took that strength head on- On both his big head and his little head.
     
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  11. BCS8

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    I already made it clear for you. Try to keep up.
     
  12. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’ll give you Golota but Hide & Cooper were cherry picks good enough for a pie on my window sill.
     
  13. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your bar for a great puncher needs keeping up.
     
  14. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Maybe I wasn't taking enough, or something. I don't know but it did taste kinda funny.. Couldn't feel my tongue for a week.
    I just wanted to be like George Foreman!!!!
     
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  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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