If Hopkins beats Kovalev I will rank him above Calzaghe in ATG status

I still wouldnt put Hopkins that high if he were to beat Kovalev, but if he did beat Kovalev, he would shorten the gap in greatness between himself and the excellent Joe Calzaghe. I would still have Calzaghe ahead with better wins but would have to give Hopkins alot of credit if he wins this

 

This post certainly silenced the thread. Seems the fanboys tried to pretend this post wasnt there

 

Ok I'll answer ya...

1 I never saw the Clinton Mitchell fight
2 Legitimate loss to Jones jr
3&4 Both political losses probably arranged by Di Bella
5 How can a guy that is incapable of throwing a legit punch ever win a fight???
6 Legitimate loss to Dawson
7 The Mercado draw was another home town decision
8 Both Dawson & Allen BLATANTLY fouled Hopkins causing genuine injuries both should have been DQ'd. I saw the X ray of Bernards separated shoulder caused by Dawson's WWE type move. The doctor said the pain must have been excruciating

His record looks a little different when the truth is posted

 

Hopkins' hospital report was posted on the old ESPN messageboard. All the x-rays came back negative and the doctor prescribed an over the counter pain medicine for his shoulder "injury". He must not have felt that the pain was that excruciating. lol

 

How is what you have posted the truth?
Political losses . Says it all
With your point 5, you would be saying that, the fighter in question would never have won any fight, which shows how deluded you are.

Here look below, an old post

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. I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111 at that time.
8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.

 

I thought Slappy gave him a spanking.... Or would that be a good shagging....

 

Who was it posted by??? You lol I saw the separated shoulder xray myself Dawson should have been DQ'd

 

I don't think it's far fetched that BHOP get a decision. It's not gonna happen but it could !

 

lol Gotcha! Hopkins had an MRI not an x-ray, big difference. I don't remember who posted the medical report but it said that no damage to Hopkins shoulder was found and the Doctor prescribed a non-narcotic over the counter medication and told Hopkins to gtfoh with that bs injury. lol

 

But slaps are not legitimate scoring punches George. Surely you know that
Slappy didn't land 20 LEGITIMATE punches all fight long. Did Cortez warn him ?? NO!!!!!! The blatant low slap?? Did Cortez warn him ?? NO!! Cortez was there for Slappy. As for that offensive attempted ***ual assault on Nard that should tell you all you need to know about Calzaghe. Proof in the pudding

Hopkins.... Ready to meet the most feared fighter of the day

Cal;zaghe... Crept off to retire to sniff coke get drunk chase ho's & kill innocent little rabbits

Calzaghe aint fit to carry Hopkins jockstrap trouble is Sniffer Joe would enjoy sniffing it

 

Again I ask Who posted that??? Cant answer can ya?? Case closed

 

Why did Bernard Hopkins team apply an ice pack to his shoulder between rounds 1 and 2, before the alledged injury occured, inquires Scully:

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2011/10...dy-had-ice-pack-on-shoulder-before-2nd-round/

 

Hopkins had a MRI done in Los Angeles and in Philadelphia. Which MRI did you supposedly see...???

 

MRI or X-ray, which was it? lol You are cool with me, C.J.

 

You just disected your whole theory of home field avantage we were discussing in the other thread with this one post! Bravo, i couldnt agree more! :happy