IF hopkins beats pascal

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    i agree apart from tarver/pascal. yes hopkins did move up in weight, but i just get the feeling something wasnt right with tarver that night.

    great win for b-hop dont get me wrong.

    but you know tarver wasnt a young prime champ coming off a win over a p4p rated star
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 25, 2010
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  2. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not in the top 5
     
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Behind which 5 and why?
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 26, 2010
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  4. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I voted top 3, although it's highly questionable if Pascal would be among the 3 best fighters he's fought. But just the fact that he'd be winning back the lightheavyweight title at age 45 from a young fighter in his prime, plus the fact that BHop didn't exactly look like a million bucks in his last 2 fights would make it a pretty fenomenal accomplishment to me.
     
    richie leon, Aug 26, 2010
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  5. VIP

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    If he dominates, I'd put it at 4 behind Tito, Tarver and Pavlik.

    If he somehow wins, I doubt he could dominate. Pascal is very fast and powerful.
     
    VIP, Aug 26, 2010
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Individually he aint no better than the fighters. but contextually considering his age and recent performance, a victory would be great
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 26, 2010
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  7. Body Head

    Body Head East Side Rape (CEO) Full Member

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    1. Felix Trinidad
    2. Antonio Tarver
    3. Glen Johnson
    4. Oscar De La Hoya
    5. Kelly Pavlik


    *Just in case you were wondering

    *6. John David Jackson
    *7. Winky Wright


    Jean Pascal would replace Kelly Pavlik or John David Jackson for the 5th or 6th spot.
     
    Body Head, Aug 26, 2010
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  8. Griffintown

    Griffintown Still fairly new here. Full Member

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  9. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Top 5 wins, IMO
    (A Win over Pascal would be huge in '10)

    1. Antonio Tarver
    2. Insert: Jean Pascal
    3. Glen Johnson
    4. Kelly Pavlik
    5. Ronald Wright
     
    Hatesrats, Aug 26, 2010
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  10. Body Head

    Body Head East Side Rape (CEO) Full Member

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    Actually I'm changing my order

    1. Trinidad
    2. Tarver
    3. Johnson
    4. John David Jackson
    5. Pavlik
    6. Oscar
    7. Wright


    Pascal would be in the 5th spot, because he's pretty much a natural light heavy.

    Until Pascal builds up his resume more he won't take over Jackson.
     
    Body Head, Aug 26, 2010
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  11. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Fair enough luf i can def see your point in that regard :good
     
    kirk, Aug 27, 2010
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  12. mike_bngs

    mike_bngs Active Member Full Member

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    is this Pascal who 12 - 18 months ago was out boxed by Froch. What a deep division lhw is becoming!
     
    mike_bngs, Aug 27, 2010
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  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    ye im not saying it is clearcut that he should be #2, if that was the case it wouldnt be worth starting a thread on it.

    i dont really see how people can rate the winky victory over pascal tho. i mean obviously p4p winky then was a better fighter than pascal now. but contextually, in his first fight at that weight against the much bigger hopkins, i dont think the victory is as significant as a pascal today would be.

    i think the pascal victory should definitely be top 5. it is debatable as to whether it is above pavlik or tarver. or both in my book. all 3 individually are very good wins, but you can pick holes in the tarver and pavlik wins, i dont think any can be picked in a pascal win.
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 27, 2010
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  14. Briscoe

    Briscoe Active Member Full Member

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    You'll have to wait for the fight to happen. I thought Hopkins was going to finish RJJ, but it turned into a crapfest. I honestly have little idea of which BHop we'll see if the fight comes off.
     
    Briscoe, Aug 27, 2010
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  15. littlefloyd

    littlefloyd Pure boxer Full Member

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    he would get more props if he beats dawson, than pascal. Its all about styles plus dawson is still the bigger name with a better resume
     
    littlefloyd, Aug 27, 2010
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