If Hopkins or Calzaghe was being dominated - Could their Ego accept it?

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  1. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Given his reputation for fighting dirty I originally intended to make this thread just about Hopkins, but as Calzaghe has never been dominated before I'll ask the same question about him.

    I've noticed a few posts suggesting that Calzaghe will land at will on Hopkins pretty much like he did with Jeff Lacy.

    Other posts are of the opinion Hopkins will counter Calzaghe regularly and expose him as a Eurobum.

    With both fighters being used to having things their own way how would they respond if they were on the receiving end of one way traffic?

    What's the odds on a DQ?
     
  2. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think this fight is going to be close. Hopkins would not have taken this fight if he didn't think he could win. Hopkins has always been the underdog. He's going to pull out all the tricks in the book and use them and make it a slow and ugly fight. I don't see anyone getting dominated. At least not to the point where it goes to a DQ because one fighter is embarrassed and doesn't want to continue.
     
  3. BIG WORM

    BIG WORM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    nah i know calzaghes couldnt.. definitely not!!:patsch

    he was gettin proper frustrated with kessler in the first couple of rounds.....

    i think hopkins could deal with it, i cant see calzaghe accepting it
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Calzaghe will certainly not land at will on Hopkins. It's impossible.

    Nor will Hopkins counter Calzaghe so much that he'd "expose" him.

    But yeah, frustration will play a big factor in this fight, I think. Things could easily get out of hand...a DQ is not out of the question for either fighter, especially Hopkins.
     
  5. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Hopkins should know that he will be dominated - this is probably his last fight - he has nothing more to prove.

    To still answer your question concerning Calzaghe; No, I don't think his "ego" could handle this, but this is a question of utopic proportions.

    This will be an ugly match - this is my prediction.
     
  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Not that utopic...just think of the Bika fight. He seriously lost the plot for a while there. Not even his father could bring him back for a while.
     
  7. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, i'm sure Hopkins took this fight because he KNEW he would get dominated. Just like the people who thought Tarver and Tito would dominate Hopkins huh?
     
  8. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe won't be able to get by with a loss to Hopkins at 43, I don't care how much a legend he is now. It will discredit his entire career to some people. They won't be right, but they won't be wrong in saying he was overrated a bit.

    Hopkins may be able to get by a bit better being dominated. He is 43 and can fall back on that. It is what it is.
     
  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :deal :deal :deal
     
  10. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    He still beat Bika soundly, and furthermore - I am still sure he thought he could walk on water after the Lacy fight(read: win without training too much or work for it). He learned a great deal from the Bika fight.
     
  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He didn't beat Bika that soundly at all; not at least as I have it...many rounds were close and Bika won at least 3. But yeah...he learned more from that fight than any other...he always mentions that fight...great preparation for Hopkins!:good
     
  12. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    He took this fight, because he didn't want it on his legacy resume, that he had run from a fight previously with JC. It all boils down to securing his legacy as it has been for the last 5 years - it doesn't matter for him(not much) if he loses, because he can "hide" behind the fact that he is 43 years old. In that respect Hopkins can't lose, even if he is dominated, which is worst case scenario.

    Tarver is shot, and so is Tito(or close to) - JC is above these people.
     
  13. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Alot of rounds from 1-6 were close vs Kessler as well, but with the exception of round 4, he clearly won - and so did he against Bika.

    We didn't see the best of JC against Bika for simple reasons.

    Mindset, Bikas style, and frustration.

    Calzaghe will probably not be able to shine vs Hopkins, due to the experience of Bernard, but he will still win decisively.
     
  14. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's funny but both Tarver and Tito only became "shot" after they fought Hopkins. Before that, they were riding high. Tito KOing everybody. Tarver being recognized universally as the best in his weight class. And where is Winky? Hopkins said Winky would end up missing and be on a milk carton after the fight. Well, he's sort of right. Winky can't get a big fight anymore.

    People continue to underestimate Hopkins. Let's see on April 19th.
     
  15. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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