"If I Was 28, 29 Years Old, I Would Have Knocked That Ass Out Easy!" — Oscar On Floyd

Even if all that is true, it still don't negate the fact that Floyd was moving up to a weight class that was too heavy for him for the first time, using heavier gloves than he's used to, was on Oscar's terms, was the underdog, and had to preform on the biggest stage of his life at that point.. Yeah Oscar was past prime and not as active as he once was, but you guys act like Floyd had 0 obstacles himself..

When Floyd beat guys we always look at the bad things about his opponents or why he won and ignore his age, weight, and personal issues.. Floyd isn't a god.. He's a man like you and me.. He don't have an ageless body and can wait until everybody gets old and he's still the same guy.. He can't know he's going to win going into 50 fights over 20+ years.. He beat the man at his weight.. What more should he have done then?

 

What do you mean even if????

It is true and you cannot rewrite history to fit an agenda.

Did Floyd beat Oscar? Yes but it was close I had it 116-112 iirc.

Did Floyd beat a peak Oscar? Nowhere near and the fact that version of Oscar ran him close sheds light on what their respective "prime" fight would be like.

You could argue that DLH hadn't beaten a top tier opponent since '02 in Vargas and you could also argue that he got a gift over Sturm and he could also have been 2-3 in his last 5 fights prior to Joy Sinclair.

And again let me say it again.....I'm a fan of neither fighter.

 

Okay Oscar would beat everyone in his prime. That’s why they robbed an over the hill Pernell for him.

 

This is just typical fighter ego talk. Does make for a decent debate though, prime vs prime.

In my opinion, Oscar would have tried to outbox Floyd in his prime, stupidly. He'd fail at that. He'd mix in a few pitty pat flurries just trying to lay a glove on Mayweather, but he'd get countered and out pointed. Might be a closer fight on the cards than the one they actually had, but he's not knocking Pretty Money out.

Pernell Whittaker beat ODLH, cards be damned. I thought the Quartey fight was pretty close too. Oscar was a great fighter, hall of famer first ballot no question. But like most legendary careers, there are some exaggerations and reaches put out there by the fans.

 

That fight was never a robbery. Oscar won 116-112 on my card, he landed a lot more power punches and was the aggressor, Pernell didn't do near enough to win that fight.

 

Prime Oscar vs Mayweather is a lot closer than a lot of people think, i still would favor Mayweather SLIGHTLY
but i wouldn't be surprised if Oscar would win, it's a razor close fight.

 

You still cant get over it. DLH would be the betting favorite over FMJ in his prime.

Just ****ing get over it.

 

How do you know that loool? Do you have access to bookmakers who would price it? No? So don’t make assertions you can’t back up.

 

I remember Oscar saying it made business sense why he was given a decision. So whilst I understand you had Oscar winning, most people saw it as at least a harsh decision if not a robbery in the favour of Oscar. Whitaker out landed Oscar on the punch stats and he was dictating what Oscar did, by making him chase him around.

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever makes you feel better. Still doesnt change the FACT that a prime FlIVd had trouble with a shot Oscar. Prime Oscar lights him up.

 

Not once have I debated Oscar's age.. I confirmed that he was old and not as active as he once was.. Way past his best? Maybe.. He was definitely not at his best.. I don't know why you're arguing a point that I agree with you on..

My point is Floyd wasn't at his best either.. The only thing he had for him going into this fight was his youth.. I'm sure if Oscar was younger Floyd would have prepared and fought him differently too, but that's a different story..

We talk about how drained Canelo is or how young he was, but we don't talk about Floyd being older that what Oscar was by 2 years.. We act like Floyd is always in the perfect shape to win every fight and his opponents aren't.. We talk about dragging up fighters but when Floyd gets dragged up, it's all good.. The guy he was dragged up by was 34 years old...

 

He was 34 and inactive coming off bad showings in the Hopkins fight and his gift over Sturm. Mayorga was made for him but again it was his first fight in 2 years. It's not just his age it was his inactivity, his recent poor performances.....yet he still pushed Floyd to the limit.....this is my point.

Floyd was 29/30, active and performing well the exact opposite of DLH.

 

I understand the reasoning behind your opinion but the number of punches is not the only thing you go by when judging a fight, Oscar was clearly landing the more effective and cleaner shots for the whole fight. A draw was within the realms of possibility but Pernell didn't win that fight.

 

When are casuals going to learn that number of punches landed isn't a criteria for judging fights.

 

Prime Oscar beats Floyd.