If I was Haye I'd push for 70% against Wlad.

Yes sir, I'd pick him to beat Martinez. Wassup dog?

 

Go hit up my thread then, but realize you're digging your own grave. Read what I wrote and then comment.

 

Heh my bad. The point still stands. People are throwing around a 400,000 figure like gospel without a slice of evidence for it.

And you have to admit..its a tad moronic in an attempt to prove that the Ruiz event was a success on ppv, to link to an article that not only fails to do that but completely undermines your arguments that the Valeuv fight was a runaway success on ppv

 

So was Harrison. I don't really get what your point is. They were both promoting it. And actually Haye did a pisspoor job of promoting that fight because his public execution and gang **** comments turned Harrison babyface in the MSM and so confused the promotion.

And as a promoter the failure to stack up the undercard has surely done significant damage to his longterm success on ppv.

 

Against Sprott he did 274,000 and 314,000 for Prizefighter. Sky boxing usually does around 100,000.

 

This is when you know fans are trying to hard to make excuses for their favorite fighter. They sit around and argue about contracts and how much they should get. You know what I would like for David Haye to do? Get in the ring and fight Wladimir Klitschko.

It sure does seem like a LONG time ago that David Haye was coming up to the Heavyweight division, making promises and threats of knocking out these bums and cleaning out the division.... being the savior of the Heavyweight division.

 

I'm from and live in the UK, so don't presume ****.

That fight was a no-brainer commercially. If Haye-Harrison was not significantly more marketable than Haye-Chagev or Haye-Povetkin it would never have been made because of the risk of a backlash because of how bad a fight it was going to be. It is complete revisionist nonsense to claim that it was a tough sell - the press loved the angle of Harrison's redemption, their past history together, the contrast between Harrison's failure and Haye's success, etc. Harrison did the media rounds just as much as Haye did...indeed at times they were like a double act.

And the Harrison fight will effect future sales because fans felt like they were ripped off. Haye sacrificed trust, trust he'll need to persuade people to buy ppvs featuring him taking on no-name eastern europeans.

 

Why is this so difficult for you to understand.

Harrison was never a good enough fighter to be on ppv.

He could sell a fight, he was well known but he could never string the wins together to the point where he was in fights big enough to warrant ppv.

So yes as a headline attraction in his own right, he's not a draw on PPV.

But as an antagonist to Haye he was a big time draw which is why Sky wanted to make the fight. The only argument for Haye-Harrison was that it would capture the imagination of the casual fan like no non-unification fight could. To go back and say Harrison brought nothing to the promotion of the fight is ****ing bogus.

 

There's a world of difference between a bad fight and a joke of a fight. That fight was boring but it was the spectacle promised of the little, plucky Brit trying to beat the beast from the east. Plus the Valeuv fight had the ultimate feel good ending. With all that we've shown the fight immediately after Valeuv didn't actually do all that well on ppv so yeah maybe people did decide they weren't going to bother watching Haye against a fighter they didn't know.