If Inoue moved up to 147 and stopped Crawford

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  1. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don't say. lol
     
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  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao at birth- 7 pounds
    Crawford at birth- 7 pounds.

    And no Pacquiao was not a Flyweight at 16, bro. He was a Light Flyweight weighing in at 106 who put weights in his shorts to make the minimum weight.
     
  3. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL Inoue the Sardine can killer will someday move to Middle weight and beat ClembuteNelo LOL.
    Keep hyping :risas3:
     
  4. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    OK, 17. My bad.
     
  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pac was a Flyweight Champion at 19.
     
  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lol your hate for Inoue is real. This is coming from someone who claims they're from "Japan". And yes of course it's ridiculous to think Inoue would be slightly competitive with Crawford and not get blasted out in a round. But I can sense the hate from you. Where are you really from? Your filipino dick riding makes me assume you're a flip.
     
  7. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    What's your beef with Inoue?
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That would make for a spot-on analogy if Crawford had just fought a weight bully with a natural middleweight's frame - like say Jarrett Hurd - boiled to 147lbs, and been mangled & left worse for wear directly before Inoue fought him. :thumbsup:
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well yea of course that would make sense if Cotto didn't look just as good if not better than ever in the fights after Margarito and before Pacquiao.

    That's like saying Leonard ruined Hearns, when all Tommy did after getting KO'ed was get better.

    So yes of course being involved in a punishing fight can take a lot out of you. Context is relevant as well.
     
  10. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    He hates Japanese fighters in the same way that you hate Filipino fighters. Except that he doesn't have the self loathing component that you clearly harbor.
     
  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have nothing against Filipino fighters. Pac and Donaire are 2 of the best from the previous generation.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Short memory you've got. It took a while for Cotto to look "good" in the ring again, following Margarito I. Jennings was a British level guy who proved hopelessly outmatched at world level, so he doesn't count. Many felt Clottey deserved the nod over Cotto. And then shortly after Pac, he struggled to stop a crippled Yuri Foreman hobbling around the ring on a single leg for several rounds. It wasn't until he fought Mayorga, three years after Margarito I, that Cotto began to "get his groove back", carrying that momentum into Margarito II and then his creditable showings against Mayweather & Trout. After that of course he linked up with Freddie Roach and rediscovered his inner pressure-fighting seek-and-destroyer from his 140lb days, and was able to enjoy a bit of a late-career resurgence vs. D-Rod, crippled Martínez, and Geale - and somewhat respectably acquit himself vs. Canelo before the kinks in the armor began to show vs. Kamegai, exploited once and for all by Ali.
     
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  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Clottey may have beaten Margarito, hell he was bigger than Margarito. He's one of the biggest Welterweights I've ever seen. It's a tall ask for a guy Cotto sized to beat Clottey anyways as this was the same guy who lost to Margarito.

    As far as how Cotto looked against Pacquiao. He looked pretty decent. He fared much better than Hatton, DLH, Clottey and Margarito did against Pacquiao. He was the only guy I've ever seen consistently land combinations on a prime Pacquiao. I know that this pretty much ended after the 2nd knockdown, but for 4 rounds he was lighting up Pacquiao like we have never seen anybody do before.

    Even elite fighters like Marquez and Morales were unable to land combinations on Pacquiao like Cotto did. They had to pretty much fully resort to a counter punching, stiff jab or stiff straight right to keep Pacquiao at bay. Nobody ever lit up Pac like a Christmas tree the way Cotto did at times.

    There is a narrative that some like to portray as Margarito ruining Cotto. When the fact is he just got beat by Pacquiao. He couldn't handle Pacquiao's firepower. At that time nobody besides Morales or Marquez could and that was largely to the absolute pristine quality of fighter those 2 guys were.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'll admit that I don't think Cotto would have necessarily beaten Pacquiao anyway if you subtracted the Margarito loss and sent him into the match undefeated. Pac did indeed have a lot of speed, and enough snap on those speedy combos to carve up Junito's paper skin and test his shaky chin - and IMO you can't altogether ignore the psychological (if not physical) impact the Margarito loss had on Cotto, even if taking it from the equation wouldn't affect the result necessarily.

    That brings me to another point, though, which pokes a hole in the analogy - the chin of Crawford so far apparently >>>>>>>>> that of Cotto, until proven otherwise...as is, arguably, his skill-set. Therefore, were Inoue to move up and stop him i would in fact be more difficult and impressive than for Pac to move up and stop Cotto.
     
  15. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    You're just a hater.

    :deal:

    Cotto was doing well. He pumped out a brutal jab, boxed well, showed good speed, and his punches were ridiculously heavy. Then he got caught. And then he got caught again. Then Pac's speed, angles, and workrate took over and overwhelmed him. You discredit the victory, but it was the very victory that had Floyd on the backfoot launching diatribes about PED use. Surely if it was soooooo obvious that Pac fought a badly damaged and drained fighter and was such an obvious case of good matchmaking that the great Floyd Mayweather wouldn't have leapt to the conclusion that it could only be due to PEDs.

    :lol: