If it was an american with Joes record ??

Apparantly they do, as we are still awaiting the mythical figure who will walk through Calzaghe's powderpuff slaps and demolish him.

George may hypothetically hit hard, but he's not all that good, as his record atests. Hypothetically is the only way he would hit Bernard Hopkins. The reason Hopkins isn't fighting him is that a virtual unknown who lost to someone that David Haye knocked out in about 0.7 seconds isn't in any way on his radar.

 

I don't see your point. His resume is weak. Winning 45 fights is an impressive number, but it is not that impressive when you take into account the general standard of opposition. Hence the reason why he will never be ranked among the very best fighters in history. And it's too late to do anything about that now. 9 years from 1997 till 2006 fighting mediocre opposition sealed that fact. Joe made his own bed by beating up guys he had never heard of in the Cardiff Ice Skating Rink for the best part of a decade. And he will lie it in for eternity.

 

The Yanks boasted about Pavlik until he was taught a lesson by Hopkins but who has Pavlik beat other than a vastly over-rated Taylor?
Its a ****ing joke!

 

Following boxrec.com? Point out the holes in his record if you would. He only has ONE legit loss. That was to Godfrey at Cruiser. He didn't lose to the 6'5 1/2" Gurov (also at cruiser) in Russia. He got robbed. We are talking George at LHW not cruiser. Pretty big diff in size. Undoubtedly, if you had the opportunity to speak to either Haye or Hopkins about S. George they would offer you a different assessment of his relative abilities.

 

I'm not going to argue with SRL, but I'm not going to automatically agree with him either. I form my own opinions.

The fight against Jones is an absolute sham. Calzaghe will win by stoppage of course, but there will be not one shred of glory or honour in it to any knowledgable and objective boxing fan, either American or British.

 

I haven't seen, nor claimed to have seen, the George v Gurov. I'll take your word for it that it was a robbery as you have seen it. I see he lost, and was knocked down. I saw the Byrd fight where Byrd looked a shadow of himself, so hard to draw conclusions. Aside from that, and being ko'd by Godfrey, he's fought no-one. His next opponent hasn't won in 8. This is not a legitimate opponent for someone like Bernard Hopkins.

 

Jones, like Calzaghe said in his autobiography 'No Ordinary Joe' written in 2007, was SHOT back in 2004-5 when he was being dominated by Tarver and Johnson. The fight is a complete money-making sham IMO, designed to fool naive fans and make some candy. It has no legitimacy. Jones hasn't beaten a world top 10 ranked fighter in 4 years.

It didn't happen years ago because Calzaghe knew Jones would wipe the floor with him.

It will indeed be more exciting for Calzaghe fans than Calzaghe v Hopkins, because this time Calzaghe won't find every single attack being nullified by a more skilled opponent, and nor will he find himself knocked off his feet. It will be more exciting for his fans because it will be a mid-round stoppage after a dominant performance.

 

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One thing you we should point out is it comes down to attitude, sometimes even more than what nationality a fighter is which I think is unfair. Joe is very cocky (same with Mayweather for example) and that rubs some fans off the wrong way. So some fans (mostly people that hate his cocky persona) look for anything negative to say about the fighter and at times nitpick on the resume. Floyd I think has a great resume (mostly 130) yet he still get criticized off his record. A guy like Klistschko who is a peoples champ does not get critcized as aggressivly for his resume as a guy like Calzaghe does, yet calzaghe in my view has the better resume. However Klistschko has the better attitude so some fans (not all) simply ignore that and put resumes and accomplishments aside. Just something to think about.

 

Even more cocky than prince naseem? :yep

 

He would of been exposed way earlier by the great hopkins and roy.