If it were 1935, who would be in your Top 10 p4p list?

Mickey Walker anyone

 

Leonard
Langford
Gans
Tunney
Jack Johnson
Fitz
Jack Dempsey
Loughran
Wilde
Stanley Ketchel

 

Ryan and Walcott presided over a prety murderous welterweight division.

Damn shame they never fought really.

 

I'd have to say Holyfield, who must have been about dead center in his prime right around then.

 

1-Greb
2-Leonard
3-Gans
4-Langford
5-Fitzimmons
6-Ketchel
7-Tunney
8-Dempsey
9-Johnson
10-Corbett

 

1) Langford
2) Non Loreal Dempsey
3) Fitzsimmons
4) Greb
5) Duran
6) Dempsey
7) Jeffries
8) Leonard
9) Gans
10) Choynski

 

Packey McFarland

 

Their failure to meet (Ryans fault) certainly harms their standing.

But, if this forum had existed in 1935 and you had asked who the best welterweight of all time was:

You would have had a Ryan camp and a Walcott camp and this would have been the main fault line (like Louis Ali in the heavyweight class today).

The third choice would have been Billy Smith, who lost a series against both. He would have been the Larry Holmes/Lennox Lewis figure.

 

I am not so sure. Mainstream maybe, but i think a few historians would like to through in the non pareil Jack Dempsey for consideration. And of course, I would of thought there would be similar support for Bob Fitzsimmons, in the same way that Sam Langford/harry Greb and Ezzard Charles is often rated as lightweights/middleweights or light heavys, despite doing their best work against bigger fighters.

From my readings, Fitzsimmons pretty much seemed to rule the roost as pound for pound greatest ever at this time. And it seems also that the heavyweights were considered much better pound for pound than they are nowadays.