If it's for the sake of "sportmanship"

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  1. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Christs. HGH is detectable by urine. USADA is just behind the times and they don't want to admit it.

    Also, HGH DOES NOT MAKE YOU STRONGER. In fact it reduces your stamina. Go ****ing google HGH for ****sake.
     
  2. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You've had 3 chances to post it already. All you are good at is asking a question and putting an emote face up.

    Just post the link if you have it. Seriously, your delaying of just posting the information is seriously annoying. I don't play games with people. If you want to discuss, discuss.

    Roach has consistently gone back and forth between "no blood during training, no blood within 30 days, and no blood within a week." Roach can't even make up his own mind.
     
  3. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    the guy doesn't know anything... he's just spewing **** just like that crackhead mayweather.
     
  4. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid271552671?bctid=58799298001

    no blood a week out! now STFU! :hi:
     
  5. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    when has floyd ever cared about sportsmanship?
     
  6. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    “To have an effective program, you have to collect blood and urine,” Tygart said. “The reason for that is that there are some things that are only detected in urine and there are some prohibited drugs that are both very lethal and potent from a performance-enhancing standpoint that are only detected in blood. One of those, for example, is human-growth hormone (HGH). There is no urine-based tested for human-growth hormone. It doesn’t show up in the urine. It’s only a blood-based test. That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.”

    Dr. Gary Wadler, an internal medicine physician and chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency’s Prohibited List and Methods sub-committee, said an athlete should not be able to dictate the terms of testing.
    Wadler called Top Rank’s offer to have Pacquiao give a sample in early January, 30 days before the fight and then immediately at the conclusion of the fight “a non-starter.”


    “The fundamental principle is that the time and place of testing is in the domain of the governing body, not of the athlete,” Wadler said. “It would lose all its validity if the athlete could pick and choose when he is going to be tested and for what he’s going to be tested for and how he’s going to be tested. They’re sophisticated enough now that if someone wanted to, you could play the calendar to your advantage.
    “There are pretty savvy guys out there who are quite conversant with that very issue. That, to me, would be a non-starter.”

    You google HGH, I'll stick to statements from DOCTORS. Also please notice that HGH was only ONE EXAMPLE that the doctor gave. There are other things out there too besides HGH that can't be detected through urine only.
     
  7. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea, let's see how long Roach stays with that comment. As I have said, he has flip flopped several times already on this subject.

    STFU? What are you 12? Roach has made different comments in regard to this subject to several different news agencies. Your link doesn't prove anything to be honest as Roach has not been consistent with his own comments.
     
  8. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You people just like regurgitating the same old crap that suits your arguments huh?

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2008-07-22-hgh-urine-test_N.htm

    Scientists say breakthrough urine test for HGH developed
    Updated 7/23/2008 5:13 PM

    Widespread adoption of the test probably would depend on lengthy scientific reviews by anti-doping authorities, leagues and players unions. World Anti-Doping Agency representatives had a conference call with Ceres officials last week, WADA spokesman Frederic Donze says.



    Don Catlin, a founder of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Lab, long has been trying to develop a urine test for HGH. "This invention could be a giant step forward. … I'm going to pay a lot of attention," he says.


    The researchers initially weren't out to combat doping in sports. They were fighting cancer.








    They were trying to fight cancer when they found this, lol.
     
  9. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    :blabla

    ssssshhhh...
     
  10. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can post links to Roach saying different things if you like. Roach has made at least 3 different comments in regard to when he would allow blood testing.

    Sorry, but Roach has not been consistent with his comments. When you learn to have a discussion like a grown up, let me know.
     
  11. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Once again READ THE ENTIRE COMMENT.

    HGH is only ONE EXAMPLE that the doctor gave. There are other PEDs BESIDES HGH that can only be detected by a blood test. HGH is not the only thing out there you know????

    Try and keep up.
     
  12. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    :verysad
     
  13. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again you make **** up.

    Governing bodies and U.S. pro leagues have long sought a test that doesn't require blood to detect HGH, a synthetic hormone that aids in recovery and bolsters muscle growth. Even with the blood test, no prominent athlete has tested positive for HGH. Former track and field star Marion Jones and some baseball players, including New York Yankees pitcher Andy Pettitte, have admitted using it.
     
  14. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    leave the guy alone... he seems ******ed. :verysad
     
  15. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boy that just went completely over your head. :patsch

    HGH is not the ONLY PED out there. That was only one example the doctor gave.

    You understand what an example is right? The doctor specifically stated that there are many more PEDs out there that can only be detected by blood tests. They will test for more than just HGH when they do these blood tests.

    "That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.” Tygart said