If Jack Johnson was white?

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Aren't all Jacks white? Okay if you look at how Johnson lost to Klondike, Choysnki, Griffin, and Hart, with numerous draws, ( from 1899-1905 ) if he was white, he probably get a fight with Fitzsimmons, Jeffries, Sharkey, Corbett or Ruhlin, ( From 1899-1905 ) and likely lose the majority of those matches.

    Johnson was a man born at the right time. by 1905, the best white fighters were old, and the best black fighters were very young.
     
  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Then he would be John Jackson.
     
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  3. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    If Johnson was white he would be Michael Jackson of boxing ha ha!
     
  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Nah, he was 100% a Johnson. Richard Johnson.
     
  5. choklab

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    Part of what made Johnson so good was that he learned everything the hard way. Taking beatings on the way up by fighters not as good as he became allowed him to recover sufficiently. He developed a defensive, stalling kind of style aimed at preserving himself. It might have been more severe for him to bypass these experiences and thoughts of preservation. At 20-0, without those experiences, a younger Johnson might have been thrown at Jim Jeffries and taken a terrible walloping. Never to recover.
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

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    Then he wouldn't even have a name I like... I'd completely hate him.
     
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  7. Nighttrain

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    pretty sure he would be a singer songwriter and surfer.
     
  8. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    . . . and obviously his mother would have some explaining to do.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    We'd have a thread called if Jack Johnson was black
     
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  10. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably be a multi-millionaire from that patented wrench. Could sleep with any woman he wanted to .
     
  11. William Walker

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    Johnson would have been treated w/ respect back then. Would this have even influenced Joe Louis?
     
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  12. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a great question. Especially concerning the ladies.
     
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  13. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thank you. I wonder if that means Joe Louis would have been the first Jack Johnson, and if we would have had white champions longer and the African-American takeover of boxing would have happened later. I really don't know. It might make a good thread.
     
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  14. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It definitely would. Probably be one of the better threads, so to speak.
     
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  15. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll think I'll put that up tomorrow.
     
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