If Jeffries did Knockout Frank Childs and Denver Ed Martin......perhaps he deserves

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by SuzieQ49, Sep 16, 2008.


  1. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Beating early 19th century fighters-a century later-that would not be too impressive, seeing as they would have been very long dead. And even if effective as ravenous zombies, would need to both learn for them new rules, & not get disqualified for cannibalism.

    Short white midgets, huh? So they are, what, like Liston under a foot tall? How could they ever land a legal punch, as their opponents punched almost to the floor?

    So our McVey here-same guy, world's oldet man, or another zombie-boxer?
     
  2. The Long Count

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    I'm interested because according to boxrec there is a gap on Frank Childs boxing record from November if 1895 until March of 1897 and Jeffries has a gap between his first fight and second pro fight if several months, they did fight in the same area, and every fight listed by the San Francisco chronicler does not appear on Jeffries official record. Could these have taken place and been lost to history??
     
  3. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've always doubted these fights but it's worth remembering at about this time, Peter Maher, a far bigger name than Childs, Martin or Jeffries fought Gus Ruhlin, then virtually a novice on a barnstorming tour, beating him in a few rounds, probably by KO but even this is not clear. A slight difference would be that Ruhlin was a complete unknown, while any of the other three had some pedigree, then again Martin had no profile back in them days. To answer the original OP question, it would make no difference to Jeff's standing, Childs while a good fighter was never on a level of Fitz or Corbett and Martin, style-wise was ready made for Jim.
     
  4. The Long Count

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    I don't think it impacts Jeffries' legacy either but I do find it fascinating. We have two fighters in Jeffries and Childs who both have a gap in their resume, at the same time, and who were in the same State and city at the same time. Then we have the San Francisco write up, (is there a second source I am still waiting to find out) by Ben Benjamin that seems relatively detailed. He gives The round the bout ended as well as Childs nickname and two of his previous victims who do show up on his ledger. It seems so detailed and the pieces of the puzzle with when and where fit. Could this be a missing fight from Jeffries ledger? I find it plausible. I can't see a journalist putting this detail in a paper without it occurring.
    I don't beleive the Martin fight ever occurred but am very intrigued by the Childs fight for historical purposes.