I doubt he beats all those men. He might, but I seriously doubt it. I don't know if he'd be floored or KO'd. It's impossible to say how he'd deal with them and if he'd stay in good condition. But I reckon he's likely to lose one or two of those fights. Even Ali lost to Frazier and Norton so it would be crazy to state that Jeff beats everyone. Of course, in reality he retired and only came back for one fight. He lived out his life in reasonable health I think. Ali fought all those men and more, stopped fighting at about 40, and he can hardly speak or walk in the years since.
Well in that case, based on what i've seen in footage. I'd pick every single one of to knockout Jeffries.
There would be no referee giving the The Great White Hope time to recover in Ali's era. There would be no swarm of men illegally helping The Great White Hope up off the ropes in Ali's era. There would be technically, skillfully and physically superior men in Ali's era that The Great White Hope would be facing. The White North American champion of yesteryear does not matchup
The great white hope would be allowed a lengthy amateur career before he was thrown into the profesional ranks, and he would not be required to fight world class oposition in his first nene months fighting as a profesional. In adition he would be alowed to wear a mouthpeice, and would be able to cancel fights if his elbow was dislocated. He would also be alowed significant periods to recover between fights, and would never have to fight for more than 15 rounds. He might find it all a bit of light releif.
haha, **** it. i picked jeffries over lyle a few months back and got butchered honestly, i'm with pacchiles to a point in that it's almost impossible to pick a clear winner in every fight given what little footage we have and even the first hand accounts i've read don't delve into THAT much detail still, that's what makes picking these fights so much fun. i;m not adding on weight cause size doesn't mean better, nor am i going to adjust for modern training, etc. but i will account for differences in technique and combination punching i'm with janitor for the most part. quarry is stopped, bonavena is the FOTY in which the argentinian loses, foster never had heavyweight durability and jeffries is among the most durable EVER, norton though i think has a solid shot. despite reports (notably against fitz) of one punch power, his inability to knock out smaller men in one shot leads me to believe he was really a grinder he'd wear down norton and it would be tight but i have to lean with kenny over 15. jeffries, imo, never ever beats frazier
This is a really interesting topic:good; I'm pressed for time today, but I'll try to get back in the next few days.
I would also point out that when Jeffries won the lineal heavyweight title, the coloured heavyweight title was held by George Byers. This content is protected Byers was knocked out by the welterweight contender Tommy West while he held the coloured title. This content is protected I dont think there is any question that Jeffries was the best heavyweight on the planet at this point.
Jeffries,during his career, fought an average of 2.4 times a year. Hardly a hectic schedule. I have left out the other 12 fights Ali had during this time, 8 of whom were against rated contenders.We are comparing Jeffries as he was when he retired at 29 with the Ali who had been out of the ring for 3 and a half years, and came back at 29. Jeffries can have modern training ,and 15rd fights. Tunney Hunsaker, Ali's first opponent, had 25 fights under his belt when he fought Ali,more than Jeffries first 5 opponents combined. How Jeffries would make out against big heavyweight bombers like Foreman 6' 3'' 1/2'' 220lbs Lyle 6' 3'' 219lbs Foster 6' 3'' 212 lbs Norton 6' 3'' 210 lbs Shavers 6' 0'' 211lbs Or non stop swarmers like Frazier 5 11 11/2'' 210lbs ? Is a matter of opinion, but I doubt he would find it," light relief. "
Three years after conceding 63lbs to Jeffries and holding him to a 20rds draw, Joe Choynski was stopped in 7 rds by 147lbs Joe Walcott ,after being floored 5 times in the first rd. My point being . You can make figures dance to your own tune. I would also point out ,that the man Jeffries defeated to win the heavyweight title ,only weighed 20lbs more than West.
Yes, but Byers didnt just loose to a guy who went on to loose to West. He lost to West while he was the coloured champion. That would be like Jeffries loosing directly to Walcott. When Jeffries won the heavyweight title the two best black contenders were Byers and Childs, and Jeffries could have beaten them both in the same evening.