If Jess Willard had faced Joe Frazier in Kingston.?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Jan 6, 2018.


Who wins?

  1. Willard?

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  2. Frazier?

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Dempsey barely toppled Willard before the tides were beginning to turn.

    Frazier, in a bad state, all of a sudden tramples that performance? Sorry, but highly unlikely. Dempsey fought the fight of his life, because he was afraid for his life.
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Dempsey was a 180 pound threshing machine whose hook started the mountain to crumble. Joe was a 200+ pounds dynamic hook machine who still packed plenty of damage. And tho everyone wants to bury this version, his Thrilla performance was still before him, a performance good enough to topple many a heavyweight better than Willard. Frankly I see a similar outcome as Toledo, maybe a couple rounds further due to the rule differences.
     
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  3. reznick

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    It’s true that he had the Manila performance still ahead of him. But i think the stylistic matchup there, as opposed to the one with Willard, was more forgiving.
     
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    Apart from Dempsey and Firpo when Willard was 40 ,Jess was very durable and he did have a big uppercut, he might surprise a lot of people here.Frazier was bullied by Foreman, Jess might be able to replicate that.
     
  5. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1915-04-05 : Jack Johnson 225 lbs lost to Jess Willard 238½ lbs by KO at 1:26 in round 26 of 45. Can you imagine Ali purposely (as Champ Jack Johnson must have done), scheduling Willard for a 45 round fight....or Dundee yelling at Sugar Ray Leonard at the start of the 44th round, "You are blowing son, you are blowing it".
     
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  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Barney Curley scheduled the rounds for the Johnson Willard fight.Johnson had nothing to do with the distance.
     
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    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good info....per McVey, who probably saw the fight "live".
     
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