If JMM beats Casamayor while Calzaghe beats up a faded legend, should JMM jump to #2?

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  1. joecaldragon

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    Since you Cuchulain posted a private message Pac sent you, I have done likewise, though it is not normally something I would do.

    Reading this, it is evident what a silly little infant you are. Giggling at the back of the class with other daft children, when others are trying to discuss boxing seriously.

    Utterly woeful.

    For about the 3000th time, please don't reply.
     
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  2. DINAMITA

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    From another thread:



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    the' calzaghe the greatest fighter of the last 25 yrs' pure comedy from clueless nuthuggers where I think it was TFFP said he was better than sugar ray robinson look Im a calzaghe fan but a realist he will go down as the best suppermiddle in history in a pisspoor division dont make you a great fighter but he deserves credit for recent opponents but he aint god and he aint the best of the last 25 years nevermind all time watch joe vs salem and tell me hes great



    The 'calzaghe the greatest fighter of the last 25 yrs' thread was my favourite thread ever, JC-related or non JC-related. A rabble of pitiful imbeciles started it purely to start a silly argument and annoy real boxing fans, as that seems to be their main objective in being on this forum, and the entire ESB united in mercilessly ****ing them daft for page after page after page while they came back with short dire sentences and a smiley but really being embarrassed the full time...

    Until they started to claim they were being ironic and didn't really mean it, and one particular balloon got caught out bleating on about pound-for-pound when he didn't even know what it meant (once it was pointed out p4p was not the same thing as h2h, he quickly disappeared), a humiliating retreat from those crazy fanboys.

    Beautiful.


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    tremendous description of a thread.

    I've never seen a thread summarized so colorfully.

    can you summarize others threads?


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  3. cuchulain

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    Four posts, yes.

    One to respond to you.

    One for your 'friend' Caldragon.

    one to champ, as he's brought up an interesting theory.

    And one to give the dude some insight into how this all may have begun.
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    I might need even more responses, if you continue bringing friends and maybe family on here.

    Who's next.

    Your 'doctoral advisor ?'

    Your momma ?





    That's the joke right there.

    Who continues to keep it going ?

    After a week of it being over, you send a PM. (post 121 of this thread)

    Yesterday you sign off on ending it with:

    I agreed.


    And then YOU and restart it six hours later.




    And right here, you plainly indicate that you still don't get the levity in the 25 year thread.

    You lay waste to the worst theory ever expressed on this forum ???

    The theory was a joke, a prank, taking the ****, a wind-up, a candid camera skit, tongue-in-cheek. Pick whatever term you want to.

    Your 'laying waste waste' to something which was , as I pointed out in my PM to Caldragon, "sheer lunacy" was what was funny. You got so heated up and indignant.

    I explained the prank to you in another thread an hour or two later.

    And yet you still think you were demolishing a theory.

    CHJ and TFFP and others were rolling on the floor.

    At one point, it looked like you had twigged to the plot:

    Of course they were taking the ****.

    And you continued to argue, to 'lay waste'.


    You were the victim of some innocent humor, and you still don't get it.
     
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  4. DINAMITA

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    Re: Calzaghe The Greatest Fighter Of The Last 25 Years!
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    P4P is H2H*(Weight)^-1

    Weight and fighting ability, this is clear as you can make a P4P list of weight lifters. The ignorance on display here is almost moderately frustrating, but I will be patient.



    Indeed.

    Your knowledge of boxing and boxing history is exceeded only by your interminable and boundless patience.

    Patience in the face of such apalling ignorance and incomprehension, can only result from a life devoted to contemplation and introspection.

    Some day, you must publish some kind of guide for the self-help departments.

    In reading your responses to the unwashed ignorati, I am reminded of Milton.

    "There is none so blind as he who will not see."
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    You would think a guy who was exposed as not knowing what pound-for-pound means on a thread would never bring that thread up, not keep talking about it as if it was the wackiest zaniest and most dastardly hoax in human history.

    A guy gives a clearly wrong definition of pound-for-pound, and you acclaim his boxing knowledge. And in this excerpt as well, we see your lamentable party trick again, quoting poetry on a boxing forum. A desperate man, and also an idiot. But I suppose that now you'll claim you were once again utilising your mighty intellect and providing us ESB neanderthals with a dictionary definition of 'irony' at work.

    Abysmal.



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    Nah nah nah :nono . . . threads like this should be viewed by the all the forum posters for as long as it can.

    This are the kinds of threads which can identify who are the IDIOTS, the MORONIC NUTHUGGERS, the HATERS and the logical posters in this forum. Read the arguements and find out who doesn't know what they are talking about.

    But right from the start . . . it shows that the thread starter belongs to the MORONIC NUTHUGGERS group. The title of the thread itself is the proof. :deal
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    Another poster's perfect summation of that thread.
     
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  5. DINAMITA

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    I see that people are still voting on my poll even now, and that it's now a 61-61 tie, which is pretty remarkable.

    To anyone who votes, please don't be put off by what this guy Cuchulain turned this thread into, and do comment on the thread-subject. I'll ignore him and we can talk boxing and talk about the issue at hand. A poll this close deserves to be debated.
     
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  6. TFFP

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    What the hell is this? You are the next Decebel, I swear.

    Casamayor is ****ing old himself, incase you didn't notice. Hence Katsidis managed to give him trouble, when such a reckless fighter never could have at his prime.

    He would not overtake Calzaghe. Although the people that would make a claim for it are presumably acknowledging the fact he beat Pacquiao's ass, so thats one positive to come out of it.
     
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  7. cuchulain

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    This is the same fool who thinks he 'laid waste' to the assumed resume idea in that other thread, and still doesn't grasp that some folks were toying with him.

    I believe you were on that thread.
     
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  8. DINAMITA

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    Despite the insults and the fact this post is nonsense, good to see people actually talking about the issue at hand.

    I had Marquez winning the 2nd fight with Pacquiao by 1 point - anything but 'beating his ass'. But the judges gave Pac the decision (just like they gave Calzaghe the Hopkins decision) so Pac must rank above him for now.

    Joel Casamayor is The Ring lightweight champion, and in his last fight he won an interim world title by stopping a young hungry undefeated (23-0) top 10 ranked fighter in Michael Katsidis.

    Compare this to Roy Jones Jr.
    He hasn't fought a top 10 ranked opponent since October '05.
    He hasn't beaten a top 10 ranked opponent since November '03.
    He was sparked twice and lost a UD in his last 3 fights against top 10 ranked opponents THREE TO FOUR YEARS ago.
    And the fight will be in November '08.

    Throw in the fact that JM Marquez is going up in weight, to try and win a world title in a 3rd division, and will be at a natural size and weight disadvantage.


    If you can't see the difference in the tasks facing either man, I can't help you. Casamayor may be past-prime, but he is far from shot. Jones Jr is absolutely and completely SHOT to pieces.

    I have always thought that the pound-for-pound rankings should be determined by who is taking on the toughest opponents and winning most regularly. I think The Ring agree, as that's why Winky Wright is no longer in the top 10 and why Antonio Margarito entered after beating Miguel Cotto.

    Calzaghe is #2, Marquez is #3. Calzaghe has taken on a joke of a fight for money. Marquez is taking on The Ring champion at his 3rd weight division. Therefore, I believe he should move above Calzaghe if he does beat Casamayor, which is not a foregone conclusion by any means. Unlike the farce that is Calzaghe-Jones.

    Surely even if you disagree you must accept that this is valid?
     
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  9. DINAMITA

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    You think laying waste to a **** theory makes me more of a fool than you for being exposed as not knowing what pound-for-pound means?! :lol: :lol: :lol: :hi: :hi: :hi: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Now please, comment on the thread subject or get lost and take your incessant lust for bitchy argument with you.
     
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  10. cuchulain

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    Again, you're confused.

    I have not commented on your lb-for-lb issue/question.

    If you believe otherwise, please post a quote or link.




    Regarding the thread subject, I voted and made two posts on the relative merits of Pac, JMM and Calzaghe.

     
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  11. DINAMITA

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    Since you cannot forget that magical thread, then I have a question for you. You said on that thread that you have Joe Calzaghe as the 5th best boxer of the last 25 years. Yet again, if ever proof was needed... :lol:

    So, you only have four guys from this list ranked above him. Which four??

    Pernell Whitaker
    Manny Pacquiao
    Thomas Hearns
    Marco Antonio Barrera
    Erik Morales
    James Toney
    Roy Jones Jr
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Evander Holyfield
    Ricardo Lopez
    Azumah Nelson
    Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Lennox Lewis
    Bernard Hopkins
    Mike Tyson
    Mike McCallum
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Hector Camacho
    Felix Trinidad
     
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  12. DINAMITA

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    Two posts. Out of hundreds. Sums you up nicely.


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    P4P is H2H*(Weight)^-1

    Weight and fighting ability, this is clear as you can make a P4P list of weight lifters. The ignorance on display here is almost moderately frustrating, but I will be patient.



    Indeed.

    Your knowledge of boxing and boxing history is exceeded only by your interminable and boundless patience.

    Patience in the face of such apalling ignorance and incomprehension, can only result from a life devoted to contemplation and introspection.

    Some day, you must publish some kind of guide for the self-help departments.

    In reading your responses to the unwashed ignorati, I am reminded of Milton.

    "There is none so blind as he who will not see."
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    He says: P4P is H2H*(Weight)^-1

    You say: Indeed. Your knowledge of boxing and boxing history is exceeded only by your interminable and boundless patience.

    It is shocking to me that someone with so many posts does not know what pound-for-pound means. Funny though.

    :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
    DINAMITA, Sep 11, 2008
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  13. cuchulain

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    You really need to learn how to use the quote tools and the cut-and-paste stuff. Your efforts in that regard make you look even more foolish.



    You had two points in the post to which I replied (#162):


    I answered this point , indicating that I had adressed the thread topic, about a hundred posts ago. Two posts expressed all I had to say on the matter.

    So you found yourself looking foolish, again.



    and also

    You were unable to find me stating anything on lb-for-lb, as I didn't comment on that, so you make a wild grasp with an unrelated and very clearly satirical post where I ham up Joe's overall boxing knowledge.

    And so, once again, you find yourself unable to substantiate your erroneous claim.
     
    cuchulain, Sep 11, 2008
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  14. DINAMITA

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    Hitting me where it hurts again - my cut n paste skills! :lol:

    He says: P4P is H2H*(Weight)^-1

    You say: Indeed. Your knowledge of boxing and boxing history is exceeded only by your interminable and boundless patience.

    It is shocking to me that someone with so many posts does not know what pound-for-pound means. Funny though.

    :lol: :lol: :lol:



    Still waiting on you to select the 4 guys from that list you rank higher than Calzaghe. Or did you conveniently miss that??
     
    DINAMITA, Sep 11, 2008
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  15. TFFP

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    Point 1) It is anything but like how "they gave Calzaghe the decision". They didn't give Calzaghe anything, except a horrible undeserved scare when that ridiculous scorecard from the blind ***** Byrd was read out. She is as shot as a judge as her namesake, Chris. Whereas Marquez gave your hero a legit schooling, despite knockdowns that Pacmaniacs cling to

    Point 2) "Young hungry undefeated top 10 opponent" :lol: Could you dress it up any more, honestly? What would you describe Kessler as, it wouldn't be unproven would it, I mean its not your style to discredit Calzaghe is it? :roll: How about....

    "Young hungry, undefeated, top 2 ranked unified champion"
     
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