If Joe C. would, have fought James Toney, who would win?

I got bored after the first 2 minutes

What am I supposed to be watching? He barely does anything better than Joe Calzaghe in that video. Infact he barely does anything at all. He looks like a poor mans Junior Witter

I've seen him fight far better, you really aren't doing him any favours. His defence is nothing like as good as a focused Calzaghe, he's slower, he doesn't have a jab and he's far less dynamic. The only possible thing I can give him over Calzaghe is power

 

Spoken by a true british piece of ****...I thinik you need a ****ing pill. You dumb ass. Calzaghe is clumsier, does not have the balance. Is far worse defensively as you are looking at one of the best defensive fighters of ****ing all time in which is why he was able to compete with hard hitting HEAVYWEIGHTS. :nut Calzaghe has better defense when focused....I guess his ass is never ****ing focused then b/c he got dropped a few times....:rofl:rofl This **** is comedy.

 

Calzaghe cant even bend his upper body to avoid shots...****ing stiff ass..he is squared up all of the time and only bounces in and out and Toney would light his ass up with his lightning quick right hand.

 

Calgazhe wins by default because Toney is so afraid of fighting this ATG that he refuses to enter the ring.

 

He got dropped - big ****ing deal. That's only because Calzaghe is a warrior, he comes to trade and entertain the fans. If he wanted to sit behind the southpaw jab all night nobody would ever touch him as seen in the Kessler fight. He was hit by about 2 meaningful shots

Calzaghe is 2nd only to Mayweather in defence

 

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Yeah and watching these too sloppy ass footwork having slowww as **** mother****ers is supposed to be more exciting. Landing powerless shots falling in forward after he punches. ****ing **** is comedy.

 

Calzaghe is slow? You realize how much credibility you lose when saying something like that? You claim the completely staionary Toney is fast, but that one of the fastest P4P fighters(of foot and hand) of our time is slow. Seems a bit off to me.

 

I don't see anything funny

I see some very smart boxing behind the southpaw jab. Out-jabbing the man many thought had a massive advantage in that department

Toney does **** all for the first 2 minutes, yet its more impressive because he twinkle toes around the ring

Right...

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl That **** is hilarious. Bhop is better defensively. Winky Wright is as well. Calzaghe has a hot offense and he is tough. But defense is not his fortay as he got caught with repeated uppercuts by Kessler. Not one or two shots you diluted ******.

 

Anyway, 84 sensible people have spoken

Calzaghe UD. Easy pick really

 

Calzaghe throws arm punches in speed so that **** dont count. What I am looking at is not fast foot speed. And who the **** says he is fastest of hand and foot all time. You lose all credibility with that ****. He is sluggish in this fight. He is dragging his feet when moving and falling forward off balance constantly. That is not good foot speed or foot work. I admit he is not peak but that is not fast. WTF are you talking about. Michael Nunn was faster of hand and foot.

 

I can name fighters that are not even ATG that are faster of hand and foot but that doest not mean there are better fighters. You try to sound like you know what you are talking about but you half way do. Calzaghe as above average foot speed for 168 pd fighter. Nothing spectacular. JT was not always stationary he could use his legs when need be.

 

Calzaghe cant even throw a str8 punch with speed, but he has the fastest hand p4p of all time. And he ranks up there. LOL.. Anybody can throw arm punches fast. That is bull****. Kessler got off quicker then him with the str8er more accurate shots that actually had leverage.

 

You are arguing with yourself now

According to Prettygay, Toney is faster than Joe Calzaghe

Further developments are that Calzaghe has average speed. The latest revelation is that Toney "is not always stationary, he can use his legs when need be"

So how do we go from occasionally using our legs, to being average in speed, or even as fast as Joe Calzaghe

Toney has good speed. But man, your arguments are completely spastic

 

Bad matchup for Toney..