If Joe Calzaghe retires after 2-3 more fights having NOT fought Chad Dawson...

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I think it would put all the years he was left out in the cold into a whole new light.

    It would put the fact that Hopkins ducked him early on this decade into perspective.

    Joe would lose whatever compassion he gained for having been ducked in the past and for having been badly advised by Warren for a long time.

    Joe would lose the moral high ground he gained for fighting the prime, unbeaten Mikkel Kessler.

    Joe is still very good! In many ways he is better than he was in 2001-2002 - he is still very close to his peak. He is not even close to being just a has-been NAME.

    Joe is a live, experienced dangerman, at the top of his game!

    If Joe retires having fought another 2-3 fights without fighting Chad Dawson, he would lose a lot of credibility and respect, I think.

    Joe would lose a lot of fans and supporters and he will have become not much better than the fighters who were ducking him in the past.

    Joe has the upper hand now - he is a big draw and a big name - he can sell big fights now against the best, even if they are not well-known names. He has no excuse not to. The world is his oyster now!

    If Joe feels he can give it just one more great shot, he should fight Chad Dawson. If Joe wants to be the best and if he cares about his legacy, he should fight Chad Dawson.

    If Joe wants to leave the sport with great respect and love from fans and an enduring, unbreakable legacy, he should fight Chad Dawson before he retires.

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  2. lozkin

    lozkin Member Full Member

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    Dawson wont affect Calzaghes legacy one bit.....he has spent the last 15 years proving himself as the greatest Super Middleweight of all time, now he just needs a few 'mega fights' to top that legacy off

    Dawson is irrelevant
     
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  3. ron u.k.

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    chad who?
     
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  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Chad "Oprah-Pops - crappy-has-been - Mary Hopkins" Dawson.
     
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  5. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    I agree. Beating Dawson would undoubtedly prove he's the man. But I wouldn't personaly be mad at him for taking the mega-bucks big fight tour.
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It would be some win.

    But what is wrong with Hopkins, Woods, Mudine? Nothing, really.
     
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  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Whenever I write something that isn't tinged with sarcasm - I believe it!

    What I wrote here I believe very strongly. I am passionate about this subject because I am a fan of Joe! Screw the haters or the half-wits - what is the point of bothering with them? Joe should listen to his hard-core fans who know a bit of boxing!
     
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  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Simple really - they are not half as good as Dawson.
     
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  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I have added a poll.
     
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  10. David UK

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    Hopkins is a *****. He won't fight calzaghe. He backed out two years ago so he's as sure as hell not going to fight him now he's even older
     
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  11. ThePlugInBabies

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    where is the 'joe is supernatural and would **** up jesus given half a chance' option?
     
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  12. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    JC beats Hopkins.
    CD beats Woods.

    Then that fight could be huge.
     
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  13. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    That is understood.
     
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  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You are saying that Dawson is twice the fighter that Woods is? That's BS my friend,you're overating Dawson, who is essentially unproven, and underating Woods, who has been in with some very good fighters.

    Say Calzaghe beats Dawson and then Dawson retires - your word that Calzaghe has beaten a great fighter will not be enough for me I am afraid.

    Hanging Calzaghe's all time status on a win v a very good unproven fighter is sort of like getting engaged over teh internet, ****ing stupid.


    EDIT: I read that back and it's a bit harsh - no offence intended.
     
    McGrain, Nov 28, 2007
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  15. inchpunch

    inchpunch Active Member Full Member

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    Kessler was the biggest threat to Joe's undefeated record. After beating Kessler, all other possible fights are less dangerous. With clear wins over Eubank, Lacy and Kessler, Joe has nothing left to prove. Also, something that is underestimated is the fact that Joe has only clear wins in his record, no shady decisions, no lucky wins. That and the fact that he has not lost a fight since age 17 might be unique in the history of boxing.
     
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