And manages to get himself down to 160lbs (not going to happen but for the purposes of this thread) His style should see him beat Pavlik pretty easily at any of the weights, Pavlik is the current Ring Middleweight champ. Would that make Calzaghe the only ever holding triple Ring belt champ? He would have Ring Middleweight, Super Middleweight and Light Heavyweight... Would they allow it? Is it worth Joe trying?
Not on the night he wasn't, I don't think! More like 175-176 at least, I'd assume. He really couldn't make 160 lbs. He finds it hard making 168 lbs as it is, it seems.
So what happen with the talks with Roy? Is Pavlik trying to make the fight for November, because I remember Arum said something about Marco Antonio Rubio in Sept. So will this be for 09 and make the fight with Jones a possibilty still
A bit of a shame, it would be hard for the ring to argue him being their P4P #1 if he held MW, SMW and LHW. He spanks Pavlik at any weight, this has all the makings of another Lacy like hype up scenario in which everyone expects Pavlik to win, paying no attention to the stylistic challenges and the fact that Joe just doesn't get himself in losing positions. Pavlik should have lost that first against Taylor, Taylor was just too useless to finish the deal.
Calzaghe's recent ventures shows that he always wanted the fights the fans wanted, but could not secure them. Taking Lacy, Kessler, Hopkins and then Pavlik in recent succession would be considered great ****ing competition, if an American did it, he'd be considered P4P #1 cemented with all being victories. But I am a realist, Pavlik is a heavy underdog and Joe should massacre him and stop him by all knowledgable points. However, it's still a good fight to be made for the sport... Undefeated MW champ, Undefeated SMW champ(and I proudly say the best ever at the weight). Now imagine if this fight comes off and then Joe gets Dawson after it for a retirement fight and wins, that'd really skyrocket him and I'm hoping for the best. The thought of Jones and then retirement depressed me, but I am glad we are seeing much better strives here. Calzaghe's really made me proud these last couple of years, after being a fan for 10 years.
\ TAYLOR SHOULD HAD WON THE 2ND FIGHT BUT JUST GOT TIRED IN THE LATER ROUNDS. He really set up the blue print to beat him
Joe has everyone Taylor has and more, that's the scary thing here. Joe doesn't lose his nerve on the big stage, has super human stamina, has a proven chin and while everyone points out that Pavlik has a huge workrate, do you really think Pavlik would have landed as much on Hopkins? It's an easy night for Joe and if he by a miracle, managed to do it at 160, that would surely have to count as one of the biggest legacies in the last 20 years.
Thank you I feel as if Pavlik is so predictable its scary. Taylor just under estimated him and he payed for it. Deep down I think he underestimated him because he was white and didn't think he would lose to one. All Joe has to do is throw is jab and continue to do what he does best. Easy fight for Joe. But Jones is the fight that really intrest me
Pavlik keeps you honest as a fighter because you know what you're getting. You're getting a strong, tall guy with a good jab, solid power and a right hand that can put people to sleep by accumulation. Against fighters who lose their nerve under pressure or can't fight going backwards, Pavlik is very effective because he gives you a fight from Round 1 til Round 12. Against a guy who can adapt, come at different angles, throw combinations and upset Pavlik's timing due to his handspeed, Pavlik isn't very effective. The blueprint was made in the Kessler fight. I think the difference between Kessler and Pavlik is in their corners, Pavlik and his team won't fall apart when things start going against them, in the way that Kessler and his corner fell apart when Joe did. But even so, this will not be enough, I would not be surprised if this fight is easier for Joe than the Kessler one was.