If Jones would have retired after beating Ruiz...

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  1. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    Jones should have fought Chrissy Byrd after Ruiz - and he would have won. RJ would be the only Lt. Heavyweight to ever hold two belts at Heavyweight. This was a major mistake on RJ's part.
     
  2. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Not for nothing but I don't know anyone who was jokcing to see Jones vs Byrd not even Byrd's momma !!
     
  3. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    I agree to an extent. My consensus is fighters should fight opponents boxing fans want to see. However RJ beating Byrd would have made history. This would have been one of the rare times I wouldn't mind seeing a lackluster fight.
     
  4. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Please list who he avoided
     
  5. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jones shouldve fought Byrd.
     
  6. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Jones could of ran around against the Lewis that fought Vitali.


    Lewis did turn down the fight (knowing it would do nothing for his legacy)
     
  7. dave82

    dave82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It would change nothing. The guy was a legend before the ruiz and still is after the trinidad fight.
     
  8. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    then dropped to CW and won another title
     
  9. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed. That could've been another good move for RJ. But as I said before RJ wasn't the best business man.

    After RJ defeated Ruiz he should have stuck around to beat Chrissy Byrd to become the first Lt. Heavy to make history and hold two belts at heavyweight (Spinks held one title).

    After defeating Byrd, RJ could have dropped down to Cruiser to fight several credible opponents while cleaning out that division.

    When RJ beat Ruiz, Toney and Jirov were still the premier cruiserweights. RJ could have owned the bank and thrilled the fans with fighting either one of these two (Toney vs Jirov was the fight of the year in 03' and put the cruisers on the map), but RJ elected to go back to Lt. Heavy and fight Tarver.:huh

    As much as I like RJ he was too cheap to hire a manager. Self-management was not RJ's forte. Not having the right management actually hurt RJ's profit making potential - and perhaps losing some fans in the process.
     
  10. Sweet Jones

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    There was nothing at cruiserweight. Toney went to HW after the Jirov fight and Jirov moved up by the next year. Everyone left were guys no one would have paid to see RJJ fight.
     
  11. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    Toney and Jirov were just getting started at heavy. Nobody took Toney seriously until two years into his heavyweight career. That two year gap was wasted time. Toney and Jirov's future at heavyweight was uncertain when both already made a solid foundation and good reputation for themselves at cruiser.
     
  12. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    If Toney and Jirov were to have a rematch a year or two after their 03' fight of the year, RJ could have waited to fight the winner of the Toney - Jirov rematch which would have generated much interest for boxing fans and much revenue for the sport. What boxing fan in their right mind wouldn't want to see RJ vs Toney or RJ vs Jirov at cruiser?
     
  13. Sweet Jones

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    I agree that they had no future at HW, but BOTH of them moved to that division. Can't blame RJ for that.
     
  14. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Please explain why Roy Jones, fresh off a historic HW victory, would wait for a Toney (who he already convincingly defeated) vs. Jirov rematch in a division with ZERO marquee value, especially when considering that he had options such as pursuing another HW belt (Byrd) or facing faded HW legends (Holyfield, Tyson, etc) for far more prestige AND perhaps 10 times the revenue?

    RJ's big 'mistake' was letting Tarver's years of yapping finally get to him.
     
  15. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    Dude, you're simply repeating what I said in post # 16 and 24.

    Do you not recall me saying
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