if Joshua and Fury retire legacy wise do they rate higher than Wlad

Parker, Ruiz, Povetkin, Pulev.

PRIME CONTENDERS?!? C'mon now.

Povetkin and (in particular) Pulev were way passed it. Parker was nowhere near his prime and was practically fighting the ref as well. Ruiz in hindsight was never really a contender, Ruiz has some talent but has never come anywhere near replicating his upset v AJ, which has basically proven to be a statistical anomaly.

 

If these are all facts, show me these dodgy canvases and glove clauses in contracts

 

Good to see that the AJ hate is still alive and well. But anyways, Wlad is just leaps and bounds more accomplished than both men. He reigned over the division for a decade straight and barely lost a round. I mean, just look at his list of scalps:

• Chris Byrd
• Alexander Povetkin
• Ruslan Chagaev
• Kubrat Pulev
• Sultan Ibragimov
• David Haye
• Samuel Peter
• Jameel McCline
• Lamon Brewster
• Eddie Chambers
• Calvin Brock
• Tony Thompson

His resume is littered with solid to very good contenders and champs who were thought of highly at the time and rated by Ring magazine. Fury and Joshua simply can't compete with Wlad when it comes to longevity, dominance, and depth of resume.

 

We were all relieved when Wlad's dominance was over because it was total and extremely long.

 

That's why I included them.

 

Give him this though - Without Ruiz 1, his resume stacks up really well for modern era.

 

Wlad has as many wins as Fury and Joshua combined.

 

IF big if but if Fury decides to fight Joshua and beats or is granted a third shot at Usyk and wins then he ranks above, definitely ranks above Wladimir if he does both for me. He easily boxed Wladimir’s head off even though Wladimir was just over the hill. 2 KO wins over Wilder, 3 over Chisora. Yes Wladimir has a far greater body of work but if Fury beats Joshua and/or Usyk there’s enough quality there.

If you’re talking over all career including amateur then you have to factor in Wladimir’s gold medal.

 

You deadass............or is this a troll

 

Fury's resume is going to age like milk, not to mention the ref saved him from a stoppage loss vs Usyk. Ten years from now there'll be a crystal clear difference between the quality and longevity of Wlad and the carefully managed legacies of Joshua and Fury.

 

No. Wlad did well enough in those fights where those 2 actually needed to have comparable careers to surpass him. They did not have comparable careers.

Wlads got
more title wins and fights then them combined
more wins and the same number of fights as them combined
more wins and fights against HW contenders then them combined
50+ KOs while neither AJ or Fury got 30.


Any statistical advantage Joshua and Fury have over Wlad can be attributed to fighting less.

 

Not even close, either of them.

 

HELL NO!

 

Fury's Resume is pathetic.. Old Wlad who never won another fight after Fury and Wilder who potentially was never any good best two wins.