if Joshua and Fury retire legacy wise do they rate higher than Wlad

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Would you rate them higher then Wlad

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  1. Only Fury

  2. Only Joshua

  3. Both are higher than Wlad

  4. Neither

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  1. 11player

    11player Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ and Fury are not ATG.

    Usyk is about the same as Wlad in the list, but I like Usyk's work better.
     
    11player, Jul 25, 2025 at 6:40 AM
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  2. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Neither remotely claimed a resume as good as his.
     
    kriszhao, Jul 25, 2025 at 6:41 AM
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  3. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    No way, all of them lack great wins outside of Fury over Wlad and arguably Wilder - but Klitschko’s dominance and longevity dwarfs anything the other two have done.. especially considering AJ/Furys own inconsistency and lack of dominance, both in general and relative to Wlads.. While Wladimir lacks great wins, he beat MANY very good fighters and hardly ever struggled in the process.. Most of AJ and Fury’s opponents were not as good as Wlads, and their performances were still not nearly as dominant… then you factor in the difference in sheer volume/quantity…

    Usyk is closer due to his amazing cruiser weight run and fairly dominant wins over Fury and Joshua themselves…. I mean, DuBois is probably a better win than anything Joshua has done outside of half retired and old Klitschko… and I think much less of DuBois than many on this forum…. Or at least I did before he easily lost to Usyk in the rematch and everyone changed their tune..

    Ironically, I remember during Wladimirs entire career people thought he had a horrible chin and could get KO’d in nearly any one of his fights…. 4 KO losses in almost 70 fights at heavyweight says otherwise - and the fact is AJ and Fury’s own mandibles are much more questionable - even though they didn’t have the same reputation as Wlad did during his career of being fragile. (Until recently, for AJ)
     
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    MagnificentMatt, Jul 25, 2025 at 6:44 AM
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  4. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Parker rates higher historically.
     
    MaccaveliMacc, Jul 25, 2025 at 7:03 AM
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  5. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Agreed, I didn’t even think of Parker - it almost feels like that fight was in a seperate “era” to me now!
     
    MagnificentMatt, Jul 25, 2025 at 7:29 AM
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  6. anthoto1

    anthoto1 Active Member Full Member

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    Neither but Usyk is obviously higher than Wlad on account on not getting knocked the **** out by chumps.
     
    anthoto1, Jul 25, 2025 at 7:37 AM
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  7. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    Not a chance for either of them. Wlad had as many fights as the both of them COMBINED and although his era isnt exactly very celebrated his better opponents are comparable to theirs, but he beat way more of them.
     
    TMLT87, Jul 25, 2025 at 8:25 AM
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