If Joshua knocks out Usyk in a rematch, does he become an ATG?

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  1. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    ... or would people basically say - "meh, Usyk past his prime, blown up cruiserweight, just goes to show how **** this division is, it's 1-1, time for a trilogy or it's not real win lol.".

    You know that if Joshua beats Usyk, there'll be people still nit picking at his resume.

    No corrupt decisions or anything, if AJ KO's Usyk, his best wins would be -

    Usyk KO
    Wlad KO
    Pov KO
    Ruiz UD
    Whyte KO
    Parker UD
    Pulev KO
    Takam TKO

    When was the last time a heavyweight had a resume that stacked? Probably not since Lewis.
     
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  2. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Be good in a very ordinary Era....ATG Big call.!!!
     
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  3. Benladdie3000

    Benladdie3000 Member banned Full Member

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    Not atg lol hahahahaha the guys he's beaten are good for today but donkeys in history
     
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  4. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Most of the wins any ATG has were donkeys or average fighters though, with a handful of signature wins.
     
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  5. elgoadie

    elgoadie Active Member Full Member

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    Ooof, not sure about that. Would be a great win, but for me Usyk is one of the two main men in the division right now, AJ would also need to take care of the other main man...

    If he beats Usyk AND Fury... Different story altogether, he'd definitely be knocking on the door at the very least and I'd be hard-pressed to not have him on my ATG HW list.
     
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  6. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    No

    Good but hardly ATG
     
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  7. Benladdie3000

    Benladdie3000 Member banned Full Member

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    For me a win against a 42 Yr old klit isnt anything for an atg to shout about and as yet that's his best win.
     
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  8. BritInvasion

    BritInvasion keepin on keepin on Full Member

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    Hear me out on this one...there is a ranking between ATG and meh. We need not polarise everything ‍:nusenuse:
     
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  9. Baneofthegame

    Baneofthegame Active Member Full Member

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    Never happening though.
     
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  10. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    LOL at counting those names to strengthen your argument. You are seriously taking the ****.

    Two 50-50 matchups on that list.

    You forgot to include his two losses, one of which to an absolute pudding.

    What a fanboy.
     
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  11. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends
    If AJ is losing the fight badly and finds a lucky shot then definitely no.

    if AJ is winning every round and finishes him then he would possibly be in contention
     
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  12. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What you don’t do when you’re trying to make a case for your favourite fighter being an ATG: Name someone who got KOd by Chisora in his very next fight for your favourite fighter’s “stacked” resume.
     
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  13. DramaShow

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    Usyk is the only all-time great Heavyweight for certain. Fury maybe.
     
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  14. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Answer-

    Yes
     
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  15. Themessiah

    Themessiah El Jefe Full Member

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    Hasim Rahman is more of an ATG than AJ
     
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