If Joshua refused to try and unify before his 40th fight....

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  1. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    It is true. Hearn has said countless times that he wants the fight to wait.
     
  2. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Wilder is almost beyond defending these days.

    Here's a specific example - a video is shared of some sted head 'MMA' fighter threatening Wilder and all of his haters jumped on it saying what a ***** he was for not taking the guy's head off. I disagreed saying he doesn't need the legal aggravation and it would be unbecoming of a world champion to lay out every meathead trying to make a name for himself. He has nothing to prove to these 'tough guys'.

    Shortly afterwards he drops puny mentally ill simpleton Charlie Z for mouthing off. Ergh.
     
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  3. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    Its 100% serious. 'Guarantee me Joshua in the contract and i'll fight Whtye. ' .. What more can he do.
     
  4. N17

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    Hearn has said countless times the last 2 weeks..

    "The fight will happen in 2018"

    The way Wilder fans are speaking it's like Hearn has given 2025 as a preferred date.

    You do know we are less than 50 days away from 2018.


    Anything to say on the rest of my post?
     
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  5. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    So make a two fight deal with Wilder. Whtye first , Joshua second. What proposals is Hearn making Wilder other than a fight with DW with no guarantee of Joshua?
     
  6. N17

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    Yes, Wilder says a lot of things, for example..

    Wilder has also said "I am a champion and I will travel to the UK"
    Wilder has also said "It has to be in the US, the home of boxing"

    Wilder has also said "it's not about money, it's about being the best"
    Wilder has also said "we are both champions, so it has to be 50/50 split"

    Wilder has also said "I'm not fighting Whyte, he is a nobody" "I don't care about the offer"
    Wilder has also said "I'll fight Whyte for 7 million"


    Shall I continue with the Wilder contradictions or do you get my point?
     
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  7. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    Don't focus all your attention on Wilder. It takes two to tango. What is Hearn doing on his side to make the fight?
     
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  8. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Hearn offering him a bumper payday to fight someone he should destroy shouldn't need Joshua as an added incentive. A smarter man, i.e. Jorge Linares says thanks very much for the payday Edward now I'm going to smash the overmatched contender you've foolishly paid over the odds to put in my path.
     
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  9. BlizzyBlizz

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    What the **** does GG, Canelo, Floyd and Pac have to do with Joshua Wilder? Nothing. Are those supposed to be good examples of "waiting" because I can come up with a 1000 fights where they were made right then and now. Historical fights too.

    Wilder Joshua imo isn't one of these Super fights that needs to marinate unless you're seriously going to raise each guys profile in either guys country.

    But lets say that it is...if you're going that route then what must be done to get fans to clamour even more for this fight? Smart money says have the fight in the UK you might say right?

    If you want to make real money make the fight in the US. And make a serious attempt to raise both guys profile if the fight is in the states. Joshua isn't the hvw champion of the world.

    And what...are Joshua and Hearn going to go the "Canelo GG and Floyd Pac" route of "waiting"? Stiff ass Joshua wants to unify the titles by lowballing Parker and then Wilder? Mofo Joshua isn't the hvw champion.

    Clown ass response from a clown ass Joshua gobbler. Ill be glad when you stans finally have to see Joshua face Wilder and Joshua's stiff ass gets ktfo and you're back to debating about other fighters lol.
     
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  10. N17

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    Is that a joke?

    If it isthen HaHa


    If it isn't then maybe you should be repeating that line to anybody defending Wilder and his teams lack of effort and lack of honesty.

    They have made no genuine offers, have no money, have no idea and yet Hearn and Joshua are getting slaughtered.
     
  11. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's a great example, Hearn has paid to put Linares great great great Grandchildren through college.
     
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  12. N17

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    Also Wilder has said those things, he contradicts himself constantly.
     
  13. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    Hearn said himself that he had no plans of unifying with Wilder . His mans career path has already been planned out. Thats why he won't guarantee Joshua in the Whtye contract.
    JDJ said he has a big fight for Jennings next year , that can only be Wider or Joshua , id assume its Joshua.
    Its extremely naive to believe that Hearn hasn't AJs next 2-3 fights already made. When this guy wants a fight for his man you will know about it.. He doesn't want Wilder right now and anybody who is 100% neural like myself can see it clearly.
     
  14. Beez

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    You misquote him to suit your agenda...

    He has said multiple times words to the effect "the fight should wait and in an ideal world they would have the fight in 12 - 18months time HOWEVER, if the fight needs to happen now they will fight now"

    If you look at it from AJ/Hearn point of view... The fight will only get bigger and everyone will make more money in 12-18 months AND AJ will be much more experienced and prepared than he is now, to the second point Wilder knows this which is why he wants it now... he is the best he will get AJ isnt simple.
     
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  15. N17

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    Hearn has repeatedly said just this week that Joshua Vs Wilder will happen in 2018. They have even had preliminary talks in New York. Hopefully they strike a deal, I want to see it.

    The only things that were planned out were for Joshua were mandatory commitments, they had to be done, it was either defend the title or be stripped and Joshua wasn't just giving up either of those titles.

    The problem is Wilders expectations and demands and what he is actually worth, Wilder is basically going to price himself out of any unification fight if he doesn't get realistic and fast.

    Wilder wanted 7 million to fight Whyte, yet he got paid less than 2 fighting Stiverne, who the hell is his business manager?

    I honestly believe this is his strategy, I don't believe Wilder really wants the fight, if he did he wouldn't be insisting it is in the US because Joshua is filling 90,000 seats in a Stadium, Wilder is struggling to fill 17,500 at the Legacy Arena, it makes more sense and money in the UK.

    Wilder knows he isn't getting a 50/50 split, he is earning 1-2 million per defence and Joshua is on 10-15 times that. So who is making up the difference and how?

    Wilder fans seem incapable of answering these simple questions.

    If Wilder is worth that sort of money then why isn't he earning it now? Why is he earning that little per defence?

    Hearn knows the business, Hearn knows what fights are worth and can be worth and knows how to sell one and love him or hate him he knows how to promote. I was one of the people (morons) who bought Cleverly Vs Bellew so Hearn knows how to sell a fight, trust me.

    Team Wilder on the other hand seems clueless, delusional and seem happy with the calling out, shouting and YouTube interviews, they like the attention.

    In my opinion and I might well be wrong but I honestly believe Wilder is loving the attention he is getting by calling out Joshua, he did it recently and people actually took notice and he loves the idea of it but if he was serious then he'd sit down, be realistic, lower his demands and a deal would be done, I'm 100% sure it would be.
     
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