If Joshua refused to try and unify before his 40th fight....

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  1. Outstock

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    Exactly. Hearn is happy/wants to wait another 12-18 months before taking on Wilder.
     
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    How many times have you mentioned Wilder in that post?? Come back to me when you realize that Hearn yields the power to make or break this fight.
     
  3. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Yep and with Whyte's ranking it poses no prob with the WBC and allows him to finally take on a fighter ranked by within the top 10 with all four governing bodies with minimal risk to his precious 0.

    For anyone else it's a no brainier. I mean, what do we think Parker would say if he got offered 4m for Whyte?
     
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  4. N17

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    No, you are not thinking this through..

    If Wilder wants the fight in the US, with a split down the middle and with his promoter running the show then surely they have to make Joshua an offer.

    Or does Wilder get the fight in the US, gets all the money he wants and Hearn has to pay for it?


    The reason I mention Wilder so much is because he is the only one who has been running his mouth.
    He wants this, he wants the fight here, he wants them to make HIM an offer, it's ridiculous if you take a second to just think through who is asking for what and who should be making the offers.
     
  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Head, meet brick wall.
     
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  6. N17

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    I agree completely Mr S, how can anybody fight Stiverne for around a million but turn down Whyte for 3-4 million, I have no idea who is advising him but they need sacking.

    The thing is I think he beats Whyte, and its a career high payday, it's seriously bad business.



    Oh and just in case Eddie Hearn ever pops in, I'll fight Whyte for £10,000 and dental expenses, because yes he'd seriously mess me up and I might lose a few teeth but with Christmas coming up and a huge family every little bit helps.

    And trust me I'll put up a show, I run to the centre of the ring and will swing for the fences and I am prepared to get KTFO proper, I won't throw myself on the floor or quit.
     
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    Wilder will come to the UK. DiBella and Wilder know that the fight will most likely not take place in America and have always said they would travel without any issue.

    You're only focusing on the negative and ignoring the positive.
     
  8. Outstock

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    Why won't Hearn meet him down the middle and guarantee him Joshua after he beats Whyte?? Is that not a fair proposal from Wilder?
     
  9. N17

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    Right that's a start, If they are genuinely prepared to come to the UK I think that is a very smart move, PPV wise also, the money for this is here because Joshua is a huge draw.

    I'd even suggest a rematch in the US, regardless of the outcome. It makes sense for everybody.
    And obviously they can put in a contract if Wilder wins then the purses are reversed or whatever split they are happy with.

    Nobody is being negative or unreasonable, I just think a little bit of realism is needed.


    The main problem will be Wilder wanting a similar purse to Joshua, I can't see how that is going to happen right now, at this moment, but if they are serious then the way they should see it is this..

    20% of 50 million is a better deal than 100% of 5 million then they can strike a deal.
     
  10. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Haha. I'd fight Whyte for 10k and then smash him square in the nuts before being bulldozed into oblivion.
     
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    A deal with Wilder can be worked out , but no deal can be worked out with Hearn saying things like - over my dead body - without even making a counter offer.
    Wilder hasn't the power to make this fight , Hearn does. . The problem with you and other AJ faithfuls is you don't ask of Hearn what you ask of Wilder despite Hearn holding all the balls in his court.
     
  12. N17

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    :risas3:
     
  13. N17

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    And you've nailed it, "Wilder doesn't have the power..". So he should stop making demands, stop making claims and conditions in interviews.



    Let me explain it like this, I call you out on twitter, in interviews, make noise then I say I want a huge payday for this fight and I tell you I want it in my hometown..

    Then I expect you to agree to all that and YOU pay me, you make it possible.


    You would laugh in my face, it's not logical, Wilder can't demand and ask for these things with no power and then claim he is being ducked when his wishes are not granted.
     
  14. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Yep, it's definitely all on Hearn to make Wilder accept a career high payday and prove he's not a can crushing pansy. There's nothing for Wilder to gain here... except a **** ton of money and the credibility he craves.
     
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    Whyte is number 1 for Wilder now so Wilder will have to fight him sooner or later if he keeps that belt, so Wilder has no real leverage now.

    In fact, Wilder was offered 3-4 million to fight Whyte, Hearn might let that fight go to purse bids and agree to pay Whyte a purse on the side, so Wilder might get a lot less than he could have done.

    Wilder is not in a position to ask for anything.