If Joshua refused to try and unify before his 40th fight....

I never said Wilder was an all-time great.

But history shows (with fighters like Marciano and Calzaghe) you can certainly start slow, fight in small clubs and out of the spotlight, and make a push between your 40th and 50th fights to close and finish strong.

Joshua's nearly 30. He's only got 20 fights. He's got the same heavyweights to choose from as Wilder right now.

If they never meet, I like Wilder's chances just as much as Joshua's at this point.

For example, if Wilder gets to Tyson Fury first (let's say Fury wants a WBC belt to take with him into the ring with Joshua), and Wilder knocks Fury out, Wilder never has to fight Anthony Joshua. And Wilder will go down as the lineal heavyweight champ. Not Joshua.

There was a time when people laughed at Larry Holmes and everyone thought John Tate was going to be the next great heavyweight champ.

Holmes had many more fights, but he was fighting literally in front of 3,000 people in a Las Vegas ballroom against Evangelista and Ocasio and Shavers defending his title and John Tate, with only 20 wins, was fighting in front of 80,000 people in South Africa in the WBA tournament and had a fight with a comebacking Ali signed.

Had John Tate fought Muhammad Ali before Holmes got to him, as he was supposed to, Tate would've become the lineal champ and Holmes would've become Ernie Terrell. But Tate got upset, and Holmes got the Ali fight.

This Wilder-Joshua story is far from over.

Wilder could literally just fight WBC contenders, knock off Fury, finish 50-0 and retire as the lineal world heavyweight champ. And there's nothing Joshua could do to pass him up.

 

All you had to say was Floyd and Chico unified their titles lmao.

 

Well done him

 

Who thought Whyte and Martin were "risks"...I give AJ all the credit in the world for the Wlad fight, and I think he's a great kid and fine fighter but to call Martin/Whyte "risks" while sh!tting on the Dauhapus and Stiverne's of the world is disingenuous at best.

 

Jeeeeezuuss Christ...they are fighters, encourage them to fight. Stop making excuses for other grown men, draw up the contract, make the offer, and let them settle it in the ring...period. Wilder isn't afraid of AJ, AJ isn't afraid of Wilder, you are allowing yourself to be manipulated by Hearn to parrot his BS reasons for not making the fight.

 

You "think" he'll beat Whyte...are you being serious?

 

What ever came of this lie, lmao.

 

But since Hearn really wants the Wilder/Whyte to build up AJ/Wilder, why wouldn't he guarantee the latter? If the big AJ/Wilder fight is the ultimate goal, what's wrong with contractually ensuring Wilder that he'll get AJ should he beat Whyte?

 

There is no thread, lmao. Scumbag. And don't try to edit **** either. Lol

 

If it goes to a purse bid which is what you cowards always want, Wilder will get paid regardless dip****.

 

One of the most naive posts I've read in a very long time.

You are living in a fantasy world if you think it's as simple as just drawing up a contract and letting them fighting.

In all of our dreams that would be boxing utopia, no negotiations, no boxing politics just fights we all want to see made in an instant.

Also I'm replying to comments made by Wilder fans, I haven't pulled my comments out of thin air, if ou want to isolate my posts and take them out of context then fine.

But read what I'm replying to and why I saying what I'm saying.

 

Well yeah, think, believe, whatever you want to say, maybe it's my vocabulary. Wilder would start a heavy favourite.

But it has to be remembered Wilder has struggled with quite a few fighters that he should have beaten very easily if he was the real deal, that's why so many have doubts over him.

 

Let's remember Wilder wants 7 million for Whyte, has that changed? I haven't seen anything from Wilder changing that figure.

Hearn will now get Whyte his shot at Wilder without having to guarantee anything if Wilder keeps that WBC title.

Whyte is number 1 with the WBC so he will get his shot and most importantly now Hearn hasn't got to offer Wilder 3-4 million (Wilder wants 7 million) and possible a PPV %.

So if it's does go to a purse bid then Team Wilder will have to outbid Matchroom/Sky, and let's remember Wilder is getting paid just over 1 million per defence so Hearn/Matchroom could get their wish for very little money.

 

What irritates me is the hypocrisy from quite a few people on here, the blatant bias and double standards.

For example, When Golovkin Canelo negotiations were going on a lot of these same people were saying things like..

"GG deserves nothing, he is a bum"
"Golovkin should take 5 million, he is hype job that hasn't fought anybody".
"GG needs to EARN a payday against Canelo".

Can anybody tell me what has Wilder done that separates him from similar comments?


And how can we forget when some people questioned Canelo for not signing, vacating a belt, moving back down in weight and ducking Golovkin we got..

"It's a business, its a smart business move"


But now business doesn't count, it doesn't matter because it's all Joshua fault, he should just sign anything.


Quite a few on here have exposed themselves as bias, blinkered morons who should be embarrassed by some of the things they have posted recently.