If Lennox's last defense were against Wladimir?

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yep thats why he was awkward for Lewis, Wlad would probably have nightmares on the backfoot today but no ones managed to do it in a while
     
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  3. what are you talking about? The chin of vitali was better than the chin of wlad by a mile.
     
  4. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yeah noones really had the ability to put the right kind of pressure on Wlad. All these guys try and box the Klitschkos but they can never win that way. Vitali likes to lean back and use his height and reach to make him a pretty tough target, so you have to close the gap on these guys and make it an infight. Wlad punches harder but hes easier to get to, Vitali is very difficult to get to and he counters the **** out of opponents and breaks them down.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

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    You need to slip the jab and come inside with bodyshots to set up head shots. No one can do that today, Arreola tried but isn't very good. Haye hasn't really got the stamina to pressure fight and his ability to slip shots and counter isn't great as he likes to fight tall himself. But at least Haye knows what gameplan hes supposed to be doing and has been practicing the head movement in training

    Fighting small really out of a peek a boo or crouch is a lost art these days, I can't think of anyone who can do it today

    I wouldn't have minded seeing Toney fight Vitali before he snapped his achiles. Toney did turn down 1 offer from the Klits, but he'd just beaten Ruiz and they offered him small money. The Toney who beat Holyfield would have given Vitali problems, for 1 he wouldn't be eating that sloppy jab and 2, he'd slip inside and counter. Kevin Johnson made Vitali miss plenty but it was all at range and he wasn't slipping inside to counter
     
  6. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everyone has their opinion i suppose but with respect i completely disagree about vitalis chin being not much better than wlads. How did you arrive at this?
     
  7. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I've heard this often, but it's their unlikely combination of footwork, handspeed, size and heavy-handedness that makes it easier said than done, just to put pressure on. Peter put a lot of pressure on Wlad and got brutalized. I'm not saying they shouldn't try, obviously, but it's easy to sit in your armchair and say "Why isn't he going Joe Frazier on Wlad??".
     
  8. Kalasinn

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    :lol:

    Peter is a fat, past-prime, Tier 3 fighter, so it's no wonder he couldn't put pressure on Peak Wlad.
     
  9. lefthook31

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    In the first fight he did pretty well. Peter is no Lennox Lewis not even a washed up one. Wlad has improved, but still not good enough to ever handle Lewis in my opinion.
     
  10. tommygun711

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    Lewis wins by KO hands down. Wlad can't take Lewis's Right hand
     
  11. Muchmoore

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    Peters attempts at moving his head against Wlad was probably the most awkward and unnatural I've seen. It was horrible.
     
  12. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I don't think so, either. Lewis always came out bombing when his opponent was his size or bigger, and 3 out of 4 I think he'd get Wlad out of there. But Wlad is an enormous puncher himself with a great sense of range; there's always a decent chance he gets Lewis out of there in time.

    Both men have a lot of skill, power and size combined with athleticism... the difference is that Lewis was a fighter, Wlad is a boxer. What Lewis did against Mercer, Wlad could never do (that is not to say he couldn't win by other means, of course).
     
  13. tommygun711

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    prime mercer dismantles wlad to a mid round tko
     
  14. Brighton bomber

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    Wlad at the time of 2003 would only have a punchers chance against Lewis. I really can't see how he would have been able to cope with Lewis taking the fight to him and manhandling him in close. I think Wlad would be lucky to have lasted 3 rounds.
     
  15. Fighting Weight

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    No version of either Klitschko gets the better of any version of Lewis, class is permanent. I could see WALDO landing the jackpot punch like Rahman did against an under-motivated Lewis but he'd get brutally beaten up in the rematch.

    VITLAY had the best shot of anyone since Rahman to beat Lewis, and he failed badly, his body gave up on him. I've watched that fight many times, and the way Lewis took it to the trenches and turned it into a slug-fest would have had WALDO out of there in the 3rd round. Prime Lewis would take him out quicker if you ask me, WALDO shits himself every time he's attacked, even by shorter, less powerful guys. Lewis is the same size as WALDO but stronger and has superior skills and a natural fighting instinct. Not even a contest for me.....VITLAY would always do reasonably well against Lewis but WALDO is a lesser fighter than his brother and would lose almost every time.