If Lewis turned professional earlier than he did, could he have been the youngest heavyweight champ?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Lennox Lewis turned professional 5 years earlier than when he did, could he have become the youngest heavyweight champion before Tyson?
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    feel Tyson was far better than Lennox at that stage of their careers and would have got a shot at Berbick before Lewis because of his early KO`s streak and charisma, however would there have been a chance that Lewis could have got a crack at a title before Tyson did and could he have beaten and of the titlist at that time?
     
  2. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Definitely, he was physically superior to all the champions at the time, but starting late worked out well for him
     
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Smith`s power and size would have been a problem for Lewis in `86, Smith had a great chin too, Witherspoon had more savvy than Lewis had in `86 as did Spinks.
     
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  4. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. In 1985 it's doubtful he can beat Tyrell Biggs, who beat him a year earlier in amateurs.
    And Biggs wasn't championship level HW as a pro.

    Lewis was too raw and had a lot of technical flaws even in 1990, let alone 1985.
     
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    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Lewis would murder smith
     
  6. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Interesting premise... Lennox Lewis comes out of the 1984 Olympics medal-less after losing to Tyrell Biggs; turns pro in November 1984; fast tracks it Leon Spinks style into the top 10 by November 1985; gets his shot against WBC champ Pinklon Thomas in February 1986 (who, in reality, lost his title to Berbick the following month) and wins against the rumored relapsed Thomas. At that point Lewis would've been 20 years, five months, the same age as Tyson was against Berbick. It'd be down to days. Coulda happened.
     
  7. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Nope

    I made a similar thread a few months ago

    Lewis might win a belt but he isn't dominating anything. He certainly isn't beating a peaking Tyson at that age. Lewis was too raw, had too many technical flaws, and hadn't yet put on the weight.

    I am not sure if that version of Lewis beats Tony Tucker or an in shape Witherspoon, let alone a rampaging Tyson.

    He likely beats Berbick or Thomas but that's where it ends.
     
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  8. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This. Everybody can’t turn pro early like Tyson and be successful. Lennox needed those extra years in the amateurs.
     
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    By the bolded your answer might be yes to the actual question. Of course it all depends on so many variables.
     
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    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    you're right. I should have said he wouldn't be undisputed champ. Could he pick up a belt? Sure. Even a raw Lewis would be too much for a limited guy like Berbick or a fat Tubbs, Spinks (who was a light heavy in reality) and maybe Thomas too.

    Still, i would favour the very best heavies over him at that stage.
     
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    Yeh his development would have been somewhat different i'd say.
     
  12. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Be real• Full Member

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    Too raw and not as a good as most think early in his career before his refinement.
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not if Smith caught him like McCall did, Lewis used to leave himself open after throwing wild right hands before Steward helped him out.
     
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  14. mark ant

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    Tyson improved quickly in the pros, he was far better in the pros than he was in the amateurs.
     
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    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A couple of people have mentioned picking up a belt against Berbick, but even if Lewis does and Tyson has to fight for another of the split titles in November 1986 (maybe against Witherspoon or Spinks), presuming he still wins Tyson is still the youngest belt holder. Who knows, maybe he'd fight belt holder Lewis in November 1986.